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Old 01-27-2017 | 07:46 AM
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Need more entry and exit steering. I am currently running stock 0 degree hubs. thought 4 degree hubs might improve on that.
The 0 degree hubs are for the rear ARS suspension...
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Old 01-27-2017 | 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by BNT
Need more entry and exit steering. I am currently running stock 0 degree hubs. thought 4 degree hubs might improve on that.
The 0 degree hubs are made for the rear end when running the ARS options. 4 degree blocks are definitely going to give you some more steering. You should post your setup so we can get you moving on the right track.
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Old 01-27-2017 | 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by wkderf
At the recent Stock Wars race at 360 raceway NY, most of the top drivers in TC were running the solid chassis. The track has the newest CRC Black Carpet with a full subfloor.

I also run the solid chassis at my local track, which also uses the CRC Black Carpet.
What did you notice going from the Flex aluminum chassis to the solid one? I am weighing picking up the solid chassis for 17.5 class running.
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Old 01-27-2017 | 12:01 PM
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Default T4'17 fit on '15?

Does the '17 chassis plate fit on the '15? I crashed my '15 chassis and have to be replaced.
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Old 01-27-2017 | 12:15 PM
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Looks like Ill be adding that at the 11th hour 🙂

Originally Posted by wkderf
At the recent Stock Wars race at 360 raceway NY, most of the top drivers in TC were running the solid chassis. The track has the newest CRC Black Carpet with a full subfloor.

I also run the solid chassis at my local track, which also uses the CRC Black Carpet.
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Old 01-27-2017 | 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by jeroendb
Does the '17 chassis plate fit on the '15? I crashed my '15 chassis and have to be replaced.
Yes, but the '17 chassis has the RF suspension mounts moved slightly outwards, reducing toe in. You'll have to run a block that is 0.5 further inward than what you'd run on your '15 in order to achieve roughly the same rear toe angle.
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Old 01-27-2017 | 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Clegg
What did you notice going from the Flex aluminum chassis to the solid one? I am weighing picking up the solid chassis for 17.5 class running.
The solid chassis numbs out the car a little bit compared to the carbon or flex and makes it much easier to drive. That's why a lot of guys are starting to run it on high grip black carpet. It just takes the edge out of the car.
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Old 01-27-2017 | 01:14 PM
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The issue with adjusting the L/R balance with weights not far from the centerline is that it takes a LOT of extra weight to get to 50/50 L/R (as you load the already heavy side too...)... you want to add it as far away from the centerline as possible so you can get to 50/50 with as little weight as possible. unless you're under the limit of course

With the t4, most standard electronics (read: non lightweight lipos) will get you there "by design"
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Old 01-27-2017 | 05:06 PM
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ok guys,

got kind of a newbish question. my car needs more off power steering and better rotation.
I've changed rear diff from 10k to 3k and that helped but it still needs more.

I order the FF brass to add more weight in front, right now I have 10 g weights on each side in the front .

Any obvious things I'm overlooking here?? Right now my back up car is better than this but I want to run this car.

Thanks.

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Old 01-27-2017 | 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by JEFFs SC10
ok guys,

got kind of a newbish question. my car needs more off power steering and better rotation.
I've changed rear diff from 10k to 3k and that helped but it still needs more.

I order the FF brass to add more weight in front, right now I have 10 g weights on each side in the front .

Any obvious things I'm overlooking here?? Right now my back up car is better than this but I want to run this car.

Thanks.

~clueless in Orlando~
Some info on current setup and track conditions would certainly help.
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Old 01-27-2017 | 07:05 PM
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-2 camber all around
2.5 springs in front 2.6 springs rear
shock position 2 front and rear
400 oil (from kit)
droop 6 front, droop 4.8 rear

camber washers in front 2 inside 2 outside
camber washers in rear 4 outside 0 inside

running flex chassis

brand new black crc carpet, track is very tight and technical.
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Old 01-27-2017 | 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by JEFFs SC10
-2 camber all around
2.5 springs in front 2.6 springs rear
shock position 2 front and rear
400 oil (from kit)
droop 6 front, droop 4.8 rear

camber washers in front 2 inside 2 outside
camber washers in rear 4 outside 0 inside

running flex chassis

brand new black crc carpet, track is very tight and technical.
2.5-2.8 front spring, more shim inside rear camber. 1.4f bar if not there. .4mm more rear droop.

If running '17, run center graphite brace.
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Old 01-27-2017 | 08:03 PM
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What effect does running that prog spring up front achieve?
I'll put back the 2 mm on the rear shim and put rear droop to 5?

I am running the graphite brace with 2 screws only
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Old 01-27-2017 | 08:06 PM
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More mid corner steering with prog spring, go with 4.4-4.6 rear droop.
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Old 01-27-2017 | 09:07 PM
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Ok thanks!

What about roll centers on the bottom in the toe blocks?
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