My local track is 10x16m (33x52'), and 12th scale (both normal and GT12) is run with 13.5T 1S.

Touring cars run 17.5T, but sometimes 13.5T too on club nights.

In my 200mm pan car (the UK GT10 class, similar to WGT), I run 10.5T boosted 1S, but only at club level. Ironically, at the national level (which is run on bigger tracks), it's been slowed down to blinky this season.

F1 run 21.5T motors with 2S in the UK, the same as the European Touring Series (ETS) rules.

So, yeah, I find the common "it's too fast" comment rather odd, myself. 10.5T blinky 2S in my WGT, that was too fast!

My first experience with a 12th car was on an open tarmac track with 2s boosted and a 9.5T that was insane. Faster even than 1s boosted 4.5T.
2s boosted on a 12th car is insane and a nonsense for the 99% of the drivers.

On redrc they have publish a note regarding changes on 12th for the worlds but they do no't say anything regarding 2s, hope it got stopped at any moment.

Cheers

It varies, but some tracks, like my local track in Jenks, OK, is VERY small, like maybe the size of a 2-car garage(maybe just a bit longer though). We've been trying a number of different motors in a couple of classes(like minis & touring cars), & have actually found that 21.5's seem to be ideal(I've done runs with a 17.5 along with a friend running a 21.5, & I only had a tiny edge at the very end of the straight & into a sweeper that follows it, can only use it for another .1 sec. or so, & then only if I'm not following anyone) so lately, we all just use 21.5's. And in 1/12 scale, no one I know of has had the guts(myself included) to even try anything faster than a 17.5. I think fast laps with 17.5's in TC are about 6.1-6.2 sec., with 21.5's it's more like 6.2-6.3, & for 1/12 scales, we're just recently dipping into the 5.9 range with 17.5's. Very small & tight, but still a LOT of fun....

The tracks in the UK tend to be slightly larger (all temporary which have to be packed away etc) but the lane width and layouts are no less tight, in fact at most US races, the tracks are simpler, or certainly seem to be.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7oWGDzeFvg

That first track is essentially another Up, Down, Up, Down, Chicane.... without the chicane

The US tracks need to be viable for both 1/12 and TC
So, yes, they are too simple for 1/12 racing alone

In the UK as well, most club run both, although you'll often see a club favour one or the other...

But when they favour TC with a simpler layout, that usual makes it easier to run faster 12th scale setups (10.5 instead of 13.5, etc).

True.
Though that would seem to make the argument for needing slower 1/12's a bit weaker.

In the UK the two classes run at different events 99% of the time, so tracks can be 'tuned' to suit.
Club races in the UK are far more of a mixture.
My indoor club has GT12, LMP12 (1/12) and TC's
Essentially, all those classes are 13.5 blinky, but you can run what you like if you really want, you just can't get championship points.

That wasn't the point. The point was someone migrating from TC or someone adding 1/12th as well as TC - they already have all of the 2S ESC and batteries, no need for them to buy additional, specialized equipment.

Guys just had a chance to see the new corally and this car looks good,I also heard they have chosen a Us Distributor.

I'd expect that 2S for 1/12 would use different batteries than what TC uses (LCG shorties instead of sticks)? So they would have to get new batteries anyway...

And you can just get a $5-10 voltage booster to run a 2S ESC with a 1S battery (a lot of the A final racers at the Worlds did that, in fact), not much of a saving there?

That is about the size of our track. Around here, 1/12th scale is strictly an indoor sport. I think the Snowbirds is only 40 x 96'.

By the time you add up the cost of carpet, subfloor, and at minimum a few hundred dollars per month for rent and utilities, I don't think you'll find many larger facilities at club level. There is simply not enough racers to support a bigger track.

Faster cars often lead to rougher races, this a worldwide state of affairs, in North America there seems to be a push for more controlled racing, which in theory should lead to more new racers in the class

Yes we could all run (10.5 1s) or (21.5 2s) for stock, but that looks to be the opposite direction the masses here are going

I can't wait to see how someone shoehorns a 2s touring car battery into a 1/12th scale. The point is it doesn't work and you are still going to need to buy a separate battery to race 1/12th scale because the battery you already use in whatever class you race isn't going to work. So does it really matter if that separate battery is 1s or 2s?

Naaahhhh the pan car manufacturers are not going to ruin
the handling traits of 1/12 by incorporating the use of traditional large size shorty
or whatever huge heavy 2s packs. They will just use the currently available 2s packs that are 1s sized. And the next battery war will be the increasing mah battle for supremacy in 1s sized 2s packs, currently in what the 3,000 mah range right? I bet they'd be doubled that in a year.