Doubt it will double anytime soon, probably a different chemistry type cell is more apt to happen

2s in 1s form factor are 6000mah as it is

We agree that simplicity is key to attracting new faces. Where we differ is where that lack of simplicity is occurring. I contend that a booster or separate RX pack is a minimal bother compared with the thought of potentially needing three different compounds of foam tires front and rear to get a fast combination depending on track conditions, dealing with potentially replacing a set of tires every race night at a cost of $20 - $30 and the need for a tire truer which could be an expensive investment only used for this one class.

As strictly a local-level club racer (people like me make up the majority of the "competitive" hobbyist - not the guys competing on a regional, national or international level with partial or full sponsorship) I have personally used the same ESC for the past four years, the same 17.5 motor for the past two years and the same battery pack for the past two years. I just spent $40 on a new 1s SMC pack as my old one was puffing so badly that it was difficult to fit under the center shock on my XTi WC. I would say this behavior is normal at my track for the class of 15 or so racers we have in 1/12th scale. Many guys are using cars that are 4-5 years old as well.

I have not tried a 2s in my 1/12th scale. Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't F1 failing miserably as a class? Didn't they move F1 from 21.5 to 25.5? What are lap times and cornering speeds of 2s 25.5 F1 like compared to 1s 17.5 1/12th scale? Let's also look at touring car. What are lap times and cornering speeds like for 17.5 2s touring car compared to 1/12th scale? Stock 1/12th scale is still faster right? And yet you have classes like VTA and USGT slowing the touring cars down with 21.5 and 25.5 motors and non-optimal tires and these classes seem to be doing very well in this country, attracting guys that wouldn't otherwise run touring cars because of the speeds... Speeds which are already slower than 1s 17.5 1/12th scale to begin with. And now we might be interested in speeding up the entry level 1/12th scale class by making it 2s.

I get that ROAR hasn't jumped on board yet, but it sounds like the rest of the World is and it's silly to think we won't be far behind.

Personally I feel it's more that the esc and or battery manufacturer don't want to make 1cell esc's or 1cell batteries. I doubt they have the sells or profit to warrant them. If they can get everyone on 2cell then there profits go up.

Anything to back this up, or just a feeling?

1s & 2s lipo Form factors are the same, contents same, only assembled differently
Any ESC works, with a $5 adaptor, cheaper than aftermarket capacitors that are all the rage...

Based off of the times at IIC from A main to A main. It's fairly close with the edge going to TC by about .2 a lap. On a pretty good size track.

I'm just looking at the 1cell stuff being a nitch market as is. Most hobby shops carry 2cell stuff. Not to say they don't have 1cell stuff but I'm sure it doesn't move as fast. And for the manufacturers if they aren't selling the volume of 1cell stuff as they do 2cell stuff the profit margins will be low. Most companies have to look at that to stay viable. Which is why you don't see every manufacturer making 2cell esc or even multiple 1cell esc.

Even look at what legitimate companies make 1cell boosters. I know you can get cheap hobbykings ones or ones made by a local. But hobbywing is the only company mass producing them and they make a 1cell esc. If the market for 1cell stuff was great enough every company would be making 1cell stuff.

But pls don't take my comments as I like the decision. I feel it will hurt more than help in the shirt term. Long term who knows

By the way, this is the track I race at. How do you think 2s 17.5 would fare here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvs2J9YOHaQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMkxv-gyQm4

Understood
It wasn't that long ago (before 1s) that very few companies sold 1/12 kits
Now, nearly every mfg is in the game, and plenty of new companies formed on pan cars alone

Should be enough in this niche market for some/many to profit from

Thank you for the correction. I guess we can assume on a smaller/more technical track that the 1/12th scale would still reign supreme? Really the point I was driving home in that paragraph is slowing things down has been the way to improve class participation in recent history.
F1 went from 21.5 to 25.5
WGT has waned in favor of WGTR
VTA and USGT are doing well and are for all intents and purposes just slower touring car classes.

We are talking about a change to 1/12th scale that really doesn't simplify anything and has the potential to speed the class up, which is the opposite direction other classes are moving to get participation up.

Who makes that?!? My Muchmore are 3300mAh, I think the highest I've seen were 4000mAh?

I've tried one of these $5 boosters and almost destroyed a brand new WGT as it made the car uncontrollable. I put in an RX pack and the problem went away. The least I would use is a Hopbbywing model at about $20. The one used at the Worlds is sold by Trinity for $50!

Personally, I think a change to 2S could be a boost for areas/countries where 1/12 is not really popular at the moment. But the change will be a big pain in the butt for places where 1S 1/12 is doing well. I'm reluctantly getting back into 1/12 because I love the cars and the way they drive. But I'd be diving in happily if it was 2S as I'd be able to share batteries with my F1 car and have a wider range of ESCs to choose from.

anybody have a source for bsr purple stripe tires?? cant find any in stock??

Check Ashford Hobbies

Can anyone recommend a high MAH 1s pack for 1/12th racing that is actually economically priced? What is everyone using?

Thanks for the help!