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Old 12-01-2014 | 05:37 AM
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How does it make it different if you have a hard spring on the servo saver
Quicker and more direct feel in the steering. The buggy I noticed it less, but the truggy especially, it felt like there was a delay in the servo, especially in chicane sections. Buggy and truggy both felt like they were less under control in washboards and ruts, while the hard spring has cured that.
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Old 12-02-2014 | 07:41 AM
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Hi,
What brand of differential oil do you use?? for V2....
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Old 12-02-2014 | 09:16 AM
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What brand of differential oil do you use?? for V2....
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Old 12-03-2014 | 04:11 AM
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I run V1, but associated and xceed mostly. Steve who also runs the etruggy with v2 diffs runs the same.
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Can i ask what the difference is if you install a tapered piston facing up or down? What are the effects and disadvantages/advantages?

Also, can anyone point me to a setup sheet for a 2.0 on a loose dusty track? Thanks!
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Old 12-11-2014 | 09:53 AM
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Can i ask what the difference is if you install a tapered piston facing up or down? What are the effects and disadvantages/advantages?

Also, can anyone point me to a setup sheet for a 2.0 on a loose dusty track? Thanks!
The piston will be faster in the direction that the piston taper is. So if the piston is facing up towards the shock cap, compression of the shock will happen slightly faster. If the Piston taper is facing the bottom of the shock then the rebound of the shock will happen faster.

This is what I have read on the subject. If I'm wrong someone please chim in. I have always run my tapered pistons down to increase the rebound speed. If the information I was given is correct then to me it makes sense because in my opinion you want your tire to spend as much time on the ground as possible so having it rebound faster to me means just that.

If Chicky can chim in here that would be great cause I've noticed he's been running his pistons up according to some of his setups.
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Old 12-18-2014 | 03:45 PM
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Yes there is a gap. I use shock shaft pliers on the cap (the ones with the pin that goes through the mounting hole) and hold the body by hand and just snug it up. I would say .5mm-.75mm gap. Never had a problem with leaking there.

The new shafts use a nut on top instead of the 2.5mm screw. It is a much better design. I have not had the nut back off before and have not used lock tight. I have had the screw back out, and the head break off. The 10th scale offroad vehicles have gone the same way and very pleased with it. Have yet to have a nut back off on any of them.

Check out Chicky's latest setups for recommended oils. I still use V1 diffs so my oils are much thinner.



I have not seen any other diffs for the Serpent. Where is it leaking exactly? I use green shock slime on the diff outdrive orings and both sides of the housing gasket and rarely get a leaking diff. I have not had a center leak ever. I am also running the thinner oils as mentioned above (3k-7k depending on the diff).
I actually used Permatex Ultra Black with the gasket because the gasket was needed to space the casing correctly. The internal gears wouldn't rotate freely. I haven't checked the diff yet as I wanted it to sit. Hopefully it worked. Slowly getting my car ready to run its just been sitting...for years.

I'm temped to buy the RTR and let my car be for spares. Anyone think thats a dumb idea? The 811 has been out for awhile and I'd hate to have something obsolete or discontinued in months.
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Old 12-18-2014 | 04:17 PM
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Can't remember if I asked or not, but I bought a used supposed to be a 2.0 car. How do I know for sure of its a true 2.0? It does have the shocks on the back of the rear arms. I know the diff internals are supposed to be different, but can you visually tell by taking a diff apart
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Can't remember if I asked or not, but I bought a used supposed to be a 2.0 car. How do I know for sure of its a true 2.0? It does have the shocks on the back of the rear arms. I know the diff internals are supposed to be different, but can you visually tell by taking a diff apart
The V2 diffs are smaller tighter teeth
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Originally Posted by tony montana
Can't remember if I asked or not, but I bought a used supposed to be a 2.0 car. How do I know for sure of its a true 2.0? It does have the shocks on the back of the rear arms. I know the diff internals are supposed to be different, but can you visually tell by taking a diff apart
The shock shaft will have a nut on top
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Old 12-19-2014 | 05:30 AM
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The shock shaft will have a nut on top
Not necessarily. My 2.0 has screws.
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Old 12-19-2014 | 05:37 AM
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Originally Posted by sobiski racer
The shock shaft will have a nut on top
Not necessarily. I have some 2.0 shafts without. All the current ones do though.
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Originally Posted by Goomba_7
The piston will be faster in the direction that the piston taper is. So if the piston is facing up towards the shock cap, compression of the shock will happen slightly faster. If the Piston taper is facing the bottom of the shock then the rebound of the shock will happen faster.

This is what I have read on the subject. If I'm wrong someone please chim in. I have always run my tapered pistons down to increase the rebound speed. If the information I was given is correct then to me it makes sense because in my opinion you want your tire to spend as much time on the ground as possible so having it rebound faster to me means just that.

If Chicky can chim in here that would be great cause I've noticed he's been running his pistons up according to some of his setups.
The way the taper faces the faster shaft will go that is correct. I have run them both ways, on a super smooth track you can get away with running the pistons with the taper down. On a rough track I could not even make a lap with out wrecking multiple times with taper down. For me the taper up is great on low bite blown out tracks. Other wise I use flat pistons, taper down is not an option for me.

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I actually used Permatex Ultra Black with the gasket because the gasket was needed to space the casing correctly. The internal gears wouldn't rotate freely. I haven't checked the diff yet as I wanted it to sit. Hopefully it worked. Slowly getting my car ready to run its just been sitting...for years.

I'm temped to buy the RTR and let my car be for spares. Anyone think thats a dumb idea? The 811 has been out for awhile and I'd hate to have something obsolete or discontinued in months.
Were you using an extra gasket? With the V2 gears you should not have any shims inside the diffs, maybe that was the problem? no shims for v2 gears, one gasket, only fill the diffs with all the gears in it 2mm from the top of the case. If you have the old V1 diffs sometimes the washers can mushroom and cause locking. I'm not exactly sure what your issue is but I'll be glad to help best I can.


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Can't remember if I asked or not, but I bought a used supposed to be a 2.0 car. How do I know for sure of its a true 2.0? It does have the shocks on the back of the rear arms. I know the diff internals are supposed to be different, but can you visually tell by taking a diff apart
The V1 gears have a flange on the spider gears, the V2 do not have a flange on the spider gears.

V2 http://www.serpent.com/product/600627

V1 http://www.serpent.com/product/600202
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Old 12-20-2014 | 09:28 AM
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My center diff keeps leaking. Can I lock this thing up with putty or something and what would be the effects?

Also what batteries does everyone recommend? The set I have do not fit.

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Old 12-20-2014 | 09:36 AM
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Tony thats awesome that you are running a serpent buddy. Lemme know if you need anything!
Thanks JHess what set you Normally run? Can you send me a set-up so i can see what u run here in Florida.
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