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Old 03-10-2014 | 10:05 AM
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a wee bit of tech advice is needed if possible,,,,,,,, right i have loads of grip but on the odd time i push the buggy past that and the grip drops to zero,,,,, now my question is what can i do if any thing too have a gentle drop off of grip so as least it is in control and not a wipe out, as i know i can push this buggy real hard but tend to not push 100% as i hate it dropping off the grip as quick as it does

any advice would be great advance thanks

I am not sure what grip you are referring to (Forward Bite, Side Bite). If you are talking about side bite. I would try increasing your camber a little. I have found that if the caber isn't correct the car will have plenty of side bite... then suddenly lose traction.
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Old 03-10-2014 | 11:50 AM
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Where do you find it looses grip? Mid corner?
mid corner to where you start to put the hammer down, but if i was to let it roll out of the corner it is fine just when i put the hammer down it goes some times big style, i have now lengthed the rear camber links
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Old 03-10-2014 | 11:53 AM
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I am not sure what grip you are referring to (Forward Bite, Side Bite). If you are talking about side bite. I would try increasing your camber a little. I have found that if the caber isn't correct the car will have plenty of side bite... then suddenly lose traction.
when you say increase camber i take it you mean more - camber and not + camber?????
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Old 03-10-2014 | 02:14 PM
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WHICH LIFE PACKS WILL FIT IN THE BATTERY BOX?
Anyone knows? Will a battery with dimensions: 54x30,5x31,2 mm fit? Thank's.
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Old 03-10-2014 | 03:19 PM
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mid corner to where you start to put the hammer down, but if i was to let it roll out of the corner it is fine just when i put the hammer down it goes some times big style, i have now lengthed the rear camber links
Sounds like you need more camber gain. Shorter rear link would help with that. More static camber would help too but it might make the rear a little loose on straight line acceleration.
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Old 03-10-2014 | 04:01 PM
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Anyone knows? Will a battery with dimensions: 54x30,5x31,2 mm fit? Thank's.
It should fit. Mine is 31x34x56
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Old 03-10-2014 | 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by andyhitman
a wee bit of tech advice is needed if possible,,,,,,,, right i have loads of grip but on the odd time i push the buggy past that and the grip drops to zero,,,,, now my question is what can i do if any thing too have a gentle drop off of grip so as least it is in control and not a wipe out, as i know i can push this buggy real hard but tend to not push 100% as i hate it dropping off the grip as quick as it does

any advice would be great advance thanks
Tires are a huge part of this. The short pin, stiff sidewall tires generate more grip but loose traction more abruptly. The taller pin tires are smoother and break away more progressively. Savoya ran battlestars for a reason at the DNC and it had a lot to do with how easy they are to drive fast.

After tires I would try a little less front grip with some of the rear changes that have been suggested. More front droop, less aggressive akerman hole, more caster/kickup, less toe out or maybe a larger sway bar. In the rear you can try a shorter wheel base, shorter camber link, lower the inner camber link, heavier rear diff fluid. Thinner center diff fluid may also help.

If it where me I would try free simple things first like a front akerman change and shorter wheelbase, or maybe a some more front droop and a camber link change.

Take a little steering away and try getting a little more on power grip.
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Old 03-10-2014 | 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by andyhitman
mid corner to where you start to put the hammer down, but if i was to let it roll out of the corner it is fine just when i put the hammer down it goes some times big style, i have now lengthed the rear camber links
I had this happening too, under power out of a corner if it got too much throttle it would 180. The most effective thing I came across was a thicker front swaybar combined with shorter wheelbase. Took away a bit of steering, but helped the grip under power. Give the shorter wheelbase a try even if you don't have the thicker sway bar yet.
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Old 03-10-2014 | 07:43 PM
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Cool. Please post pics
Make sure you put the washer that comes with the kit above the tank....
It should be:
screw
washer
tank
fuel line
double O-rings
tank mounting post....

That's How I have it.

Tekno NB48-044.jpg
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Old 03-10-2014 | 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by 08supermoto
Make sure you put the washer that comes with the kit above the tank....
It should be:
screw
washer
tank
fuel line
double O-rings
tank mounting post....

That's How I have it.

Attachment 1175885
Cool thanks for the pics. How long of fuel line are you using for the extra cushion? 5mm? You did it on both tank posts?
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Old 03-10-2014 | 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by 08supermoto
Make sure you put the washer that comes with the kit above the tank....
It should be:
screw
washer
tank
fuel line
double O-rings
tank mounting post....

That's How I have it.

Attachment 1175885
WOAH. You got that tank skyridin'
That's probably high enough to negatively affect handling when full
And how do you fit a stock body over that? Mine rubs at the tanks factory height
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Old 03-11-2014 | 04:24 AM
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Originally Posted by BigInJapan
I had this happening too, under power out of a corner if it got too much throttle it would 180. The most effective thing I came across was a thicker front swaybar combined with shorter wheelbase. Took away a bit of steering, but helped the grip under power. Give the shorter wheelbase a try even if you don't have the thicker sway bar yet.
thanks for your info here i thought it was only me it was happening too, what i forgot to say was that the weather here has not had a dry day so track is always been wet plus it is astro not dirt, and yes when i got the buggy i ordered every sway bar front and back there was think im not 100% sure 2.6 front and 2.5 rear or it is the other way round cant remember as not home so cant look,,,,,,,, i do know i run toe out the the front at least 1 degree maybe more
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Old 03-11-2014 | 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted by BigInJapan
WOAH. You got that tank skyridin'
That's probably high enough to negatively affect handling when full
And how do you fit a stock body over that? Mine rubs at the tanks factory height
Nah I run 8 to 10mm of tubing and it don't rub on the body at all

I don't run the o rings though on mine as the fuel tube is enough I have found
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Old 03-11-2014 | 07:09 AM
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Originally Posted by andyhitman
when you say increase camber i take it you mean more - camber and not + camber?????
Yes I mean more negative camber. Sorry for the confusion. Also, I am running my rear links:

Hub second from inside.
Tower Inside bottom hole.
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Old 03-11-2014 | 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by G SquareD
Cool thanks for the pics. How long of fuel line are you using for the extra cushion? 5mm? You did it on both tank posts?
Yes, I did it on both tank post and my fuel tubing is 6mm.





Originally Posted by BigInJapan
WOAH. You got that tank skyridin'
That's probably high enough to negatively affect handling when full
And how do you fit a stock body over that? Mine rubs at the tanks factory height
I really Doubt it will bother any of the performance of the buggy.....The fuel tubing acts a shock absorber... With my body on I see no noticeable difference... Car still drives awesome!
Plus I'd rather deal with changing my setup before settling with A DNF.

Here's a pic with my body on...
Tekno NB48-022.jpg
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