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Old 11-20-2013 | 03:41 PM
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Okay… Stupid question of the day…
With the tapered pistons, does the piston go in with the taper up or down? I was thinking that it goes in with the taper facing up because that make sense in my mind.. But this past weekend I built my 1/8th buggy and it came with tapers… Told me that they face down?? So now I’m confused… Can someone tell me what is correct and why?
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Old 11-20-2013 | 03:45 PM
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Okay… Stupid question of the day…
With the tapered pistons, does the piston go in with the taper up or down? I was thinking that it goes in with the taper facing up because that make sense in my mind.. But this past weekend I built my 1/8th buggy and it came with tapers… Told me that they face down?? So now I’m confused… Can someone tell me what is correct and why?
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it depends if you want faster rebound or faster compression. Faster compression tappers down, and faster rebound tapers up
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Old 11-20-2013 | 03:48 PM
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Well, i guess it comes down to the definition of slop. When my 22 rear arms were new, they were free and tight. no front to back play. Now they move front to back. I call this slop. For me the rack and rear arms slop out the fastest. But, its nothing like the rear hubs on the b4.2, lol. That was just ridiculous. I agree the b4 has more slop than the 22, but the 22 has slop by my personal definition.
Neither mine nor my buddy's 22's have any slop in the rear (side to side wobble or forwards /backwards sliding) but we both run the Aluminum Suspension hangers and hardware so it fits rather snug. On mine the left side was binding a tad so I places a little mothers in the hangers and polished them just enough so the arm would drop under its own weight.

I traded my 22 for my 4.2 long ago because a local guy bought a 4.2 and when I drove it I instantly knew I was back home. My buddy however refused to see the light and struggled with his 22's until he bought the Exotek Bell Crank systems a few weeks back and NOW his cars are high-end worthy, and the front ends are crisp!
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Old 11-20-2013 | 03:54 PM
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run em taper side down
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Old 11-20-2013 | 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by rc car guy
it depends if you want faster rebound or faster compression. Faster compression tappers down, and faster rebound tapers up
That's backwards.
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Old 11-20-2013 | 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by rc car guy
it depends if you want faster rebound or faster compression. Faster compression tappers down, and faster rebound tapers up
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Old 11-20-2013 | 04:04 PM
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ok sorry i dont run tapers, just read it on this thread before and thats what i have written down
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Old 11-20-2013 | 04:10 PM
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It's all good... But it's just the opposite of what you said.


The tapers face down. I know of no one that has ever tried them facing up... Your car would be extremely hurting on landings.

Taper pistons make your car react quicker.... Sometimes they feel really good on the bench but on the track they just don't get the lap times. It's really track dependent... Grip level/how technical the layout is/rough/bumpy/smooth.

A common feel is that they help the car to recover faster due to quicker rebound... It's always all about feel and preference though. There are times I love em and times I hate em.
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Old 11-20-2013 | 04:17 PM
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Okay,
Faster compression tappers up, and faster rebound tapers down... ?
Normally, most run them tapers down... Correct?

I have the 3x1.4 with 30w/F 27.5/R.
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Originally Posted by aeRayls
It's all good... But it's just the opposite of what you said.


The tapers face down. I know of no one that has ever tried them facing up... Your car would be extremely hurting on landings.

Taper pistons make your car react quicker.... Sometimes they feel really good on the bench but on the track they just don't get the lap times. It's really track dependent... Grip level/how technical the layout is/rough/bumpy/smooth.

A common feel is that they help the car to recover faster due to quicker rebound... It's always all about feel and preference though. There are times I love em and times I hate em.
Got ya! Thanks,
You were typing the same time i was lol.
I runing on a very smooth, high bite, wet track... green springs front, White rear, ion m4 with open cell.
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Old 11-20-2013 | 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by nitroceciljr
Got ya! Thanks,
You were typing the same time i was lol.
I runing on a very smooth, high bite, wet track... green springs front, White rear, ion m4 with open cell.
Yup you got it.

Though I think with that piston 30/27.5 is probably a little light. Depending on size of your track and grip level.

When I ran those, they only worked well for me on a smooth med to high bite track that was pretty big. I ran 35/30.
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Old 11-20-2013 | 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by aeRayls
Yup you got it.

Though I think with that piston 30/27.5 is probably a little light. Depending on size of your track and grip level.

When I ran those, they only worked well for me on a smooth med to high bite track that was pretty big. I ran 35/30.
Maybe go 32.5F 30R ?
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Old 11-20-2013 | 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by nitroceciljr
Maybe go 32.5F 30R ?
that's what I am at.
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Old 11-20-2013 | 07:06 PM
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Yup sounds good
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Old 11-21-2013 | 07:45 AM
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While were on the subject of piston's, anyone have any experience or feedback with the MIP piston's?
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