Jeff, You are on your way to becoming one of the fast guys at your track. You have to learn on your own what works for you and your driving style. I quit copying pro setups a while ago and am so glad I did. I can dial my car in much faster now that i quit relying on them. Not saying im Yoda but im alot faster then I was 1 year ago.

BLKX

Asked those same fast guys that tried to help you test drive your ride .

Also ask if you could try theirs for a few laps ...

Perhaps the best way to learn how their set-up drives & feels ....



My own opinion is there is no such thing as a particular driving style .

Give any good driver a bad car & it will show & slow him down ...

Giving a inexperience driver a good car allows them to learn easier & become faster sooner ...

nothing wrong with trying different adjustments & tuning , its part of the fun .

Still advise you or any newer driver to use the Factory set-ups as their base set-up. Helps get a good driving car sooner...

in the b44 thread they recommended using the losi bleeder washer set insted of the o-ring:
http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...t-4-TLR-22-22T

is it needed un the b4 as well?


what do you brake in the car? (so i can buy now and not get stuck)

basically i agree with you, but there are defenitely different driving styles. Some people like to point and shoot, others like to drift a bit and so on.

As a new driver i would first use factory or teamdriver setup and learn to drive the car. then make adjustments to learn what the teamdriver did to make the car handle that way and change it according to your particular driving style.
what really helped me is, to have no money for new tires xD if you don't have grip, you're kinda forced to learn how to setup your car and it also helps you to hit the apex, because you have no other possibilty to keep up with the fast guys.

I can give a good driver a correctly set-up car & he will perform great .

Change the set-up to something different & not so good & that same driver will never perform well ....


Proof
No such thing as driving style , setting up a car is not like getting a hair cut ...

Good grief, that's not proof. You can turn your statement around and "prove" the exact opposite as well. Neither has anything to do with the B4.2. Back on topic....

Yes it proves I have a point ....

BTW Topic is about B4 setup's...

Can take any car driven by a good driver , just practice a few laps and I will perform well .

Give me a rookie's custom set-up made for his particular "style" ?
No way will I perform well if the car is bad...

What tires are you using on a hard packed with loose dust to dirt on top out door track. I looked at the AKA, Pro Line and J concepts tires, but none look great for those conditions. Most of the tires made seem to be for hard packed and or clay tracks. I am trying to be one of the fast guys out of the box by using someone else's experiences.
Thanks and God Bless

Maybe try Jc 3D's or DD's.

My local track where I run is hard-packed dirt with a layer dust on top of it and some light loose dirt.

These are the tires I use:
Rear:
Losi Bigshot (soft compound, red)
Proline Bowtie M3
Jconcepts Goosebumps
I also tested some Jconcepts barcodes blue but haven't raced them yet.
And AKA Impact soft.

Front:
mostly Proline 8715 M3 on a narrow rim.
Jconcepts Ribs blue/green
Jconcepts barcodes blue

That's about it I think.

Goosebumps will always perform great but the tire wear isn't that good..

Hopes this helps some sort

Here is a video of my track, you might be able to use it as a refferance (it was pretty loose dirt, used Jconcepts goosebumps green and ribs blue)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=WXLZYkkHO6k

Jconcpet 3D's ftw!

Well, don't know what to say now. Bad setup is bad. Good setup is good. Any average driver will perform better with generally good setup and any average driver will perform worse with a bad setup. BUT no one who drove a car with slicks for a year and learned to adapt drifting to his driving style will drive good with a super twitchy super high grip 4wd buggy

if you drive a rookie-car it's not setup for his driving style, neither for anyone elses, it's just crap

no more food for you, mr. troll.

If that were true, then every pro driver would run the exact same setup as each other, at every track. While it is true that a good driver can go pretty fast with a well set up car, let them make some adjustments and watch their lap times drop. Pro drivers are good at driving, but also really good at knowing what adjustments to make to make the car handle exactly the way they want. When a pro is fighting their car, their lap times will still be fast, just inconsistent.

Cherry, have you ever travelled to a big race outside the PNW/West coast?

To the guy that found 2 seconds after a bunch of track time, unless your car had a bunch of things fundamentally wrong with it, I seriously doubt very much of that two seconds was as a result of setup changes. You are going faster because of practice. If all of your lap times are within .5 seconds of one another, then setup changes will catch a tenth here, and a tenth there. Big gains in time are from you driving better. Some of your setup changes probably helped to make the car easier to drive. You can see how right I am if you undo all the setup changes you made, and your lap times don't change much.

I do know what to say ...

ignore

They only change the setups for the track conditions not their style ..
Compare their set-ups at the same events , not so unlike each others ...

being to
4 or 5 Roar Nats & Reedy's off-road events.......


All on west coast ....

Going with Scott Brown to your track next year ...