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Old 04-07-2013 | 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Bob Barry
hard to say just yet but M3/M4 holeshots or something near that. That track was underwater Friday... it's amazing that it looked as good as it did!

I tried Green Hybrids, AKA Impacts, and M3 holeshots but since track time was limited and conditions were drastically different each attempt, it was tough to say one was better than the other. I think Flipouts, 3D's, Tasers, etc will all work. You just have to stay on top of it because the track is totally different in the morning, noon, and evening
welcome to my world, lol. Outdoor racing can be like that. it looked like there was a fast line, but it was narrow. You over jumped a few of the jumps and looks like you hit fluff. The track might still be a bit green because its new. But the groove looked like traction was at least ok. I liked where the turn marshal threw you at another car. lol

Like usual I finished last lol. Mainly because I could not see. I really need to paint up my night racing body. There were a couple times where I completely lost my car. Anyway, I borrowed a Balistic 13.5 from a local sponsored guy because my reedy blew up. I ran the motor pretty tame becasue it was not mine (110), so I was lacking a little power for a double into triple. Honestly I could not ever see half the jumps, I just guessed based on practice when the sun was up, lol. I ran the 3x1.4 pistons with 32.5/30 with green fronts and white rear with a full pack. The car felt pretty good. I did chassis slap if I long jump flat landed, but other wise if was good. Good steering without being twitchy. Our track is also new and pretty green and changed greatly from the practice to the main. I kinda wanna install glow lights under my car for night racing, lol.
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Old 04-07-2013 | 12:16 PM
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welcome to my world, lol. Outdoor racing can be like that. it looked like there was a fast line, but it was narrow. You over jumped a few of the jumps and looks like you hit fluff. The track might still be a bit green because its new. But the groove looked like traction was at least ok. I liked where the turn marshal threw you at another car. lol
I'm not worried. There was a ton of variables. We only ran a few laps of practice at 9am during the designated '10th scale time'. Ran our first qual (2nd race of the round) around 11:00. Ran our second (and final qual) around 3 or 4 (don't remember) and I only made 3 laps (serrated wheel nut fell off.... weird...) then ran the mains near 7.

So you can imagine how much the track changed in 8 hours, especially with 8th scales on it. It was just so much fun to be racing outside again!

By memorial day, we will be ripping wheelies
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Old 04-07-2013 | 12:36 PM
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Looking to convert to hexes, if you have some wheels or tires that u are willing to sell me hit me up with a PM please.
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Old 04-07-2013 | 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by brian6674
I was at the track today and listened in on someone explain the “Grind and C Hub” Mod. I looked it up on this tred, found on the first page!!! I am about to start building my B4.2. Is this an all around mod, or only for certain track types? I will be racing on a medium traction clay track. Would it be recommended to do the mod during the build, or try stock first?
I would run stock with 2mm on the inside first. Not sure how many if any spacers stock lol

And like Matt said, the C hub mod is for a high bite track.

If you want your car to drive more square through the corners then go for it. I find the A hub with 2mm inside lets the car drive more round around the corners and lets the rear steer through the corner making a more round feel where if you lower that link it is more point and shoot driving and letting the rear kinda slide more and can be less consistent but possibly faster if you can be consistent with it.
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Old 04-07-2013 | 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by skoalisbad4me
What are you guys doing for your shocks as far as internal limiters?
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3 limiter front (20.3mm of exposed shaft)

2 limiter rear (26mm of exposed shaft)
3 front and 2 rear seems to be the norm.

As fas as exposed shaft from the shock body to the shock eyelet and correct me if i am wrong but i think the above measurements are not correct.

3 limiters front = .090" which converts to 2.286mm which you would subtract from 21mm of the given shock shaft stroke which comes out to 18.714mm

Front with 3 limiters equals 18.714mm of exposed shaft

Rear with 2 limiters equals 25.976mm of exposed shaft

I corrected my shocks last night since i did not have my shock rod ends turned in far enough and it was a night and day difference.
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Old 04-07-2013 | 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Eli
3 front and 2 rear seems to be the norm.

As fas as exposed shaft from the shock body to the shock eyelet and correct me if i am wrong but i think the above measurements are not correct.

3 limiters front = .090" which converts to 2.286mm which you would subtract from 21mm of the given shock shaft stroke which comes out to 18.714mm

Front with 3 limiters equals 18.714mm of exposed shaft

Rear with 2 limiters equals 25.976mm of exposed shaft

I corrected my shocks last night since i did not have my shock rod ends turned in far enough and it was a night and day difference.
3 limiter front (20.3mm of exposed shaft)

2 limiter rear (26mm of exposed shaft)


Just got this info from Kurt @ avid regarding the limiter/exposed shock shaft length. He unscrews his shock end a few turns w/3 limiter to achieve 20.3mm exposed shock shaft length for the front as it will make the shaft length in between 2 limiter and 3 limiter.

I ran his recommended setting this past weekend and my car jumped/handled a lot better then my previous limiter settings (which was 2 limiter with 19.5mm exposed shaft)
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Old 04-07-2013 | 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Bob Barry
I'm not worried. There was a ton of variables. We only ran a few laps of practice at 9am during the designated '10th scale time'. Ran our first qual (2nd race of the round) around 11:00. Ran our second (and final qual) around 3 or 4 (don't remember) and I only made 3 laps (serrated wheel nut fell off.... weird...) then ran the mains near 7.

So you can imagine how much the track changed in 8 hours, especially with 8th scales on it. It was just so much fun to be racing outside again!

By memorial day, we will be ripping wheelies
Was that the first track they have ever built? That layout had no flow, and the jumps were terrible. Perhaps you should inform them to the fact that the point of a landing jump is to have a down slope on which to land the car, not an obstacle that has to be jumped over so you have to flat land. Also that pit lane setup is a recipe for disaster.
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Old 04-07-2013 | 03:59 PM
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Thanks for the help with the C hub Q guys !!!!!
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Old 04-07-2013 | 05:24 PM
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lol Boreman has been building tracks for 30 years....
check out the pedigree

http://www.teamassociated.com/about/...oar_nationals/

Oh and the pit lane was built that way when they ran the opposite direction. So far it hasn't presented issues but I'm sure if it does, they will change it.

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Old 04-07-2013 | 06:43 PM
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Anyone know if A Main is shipping the new .2 towers yet?
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Old 04-07-2013 | 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by onefast8
Anyone know if A Main is shipping the new .2 towers yet?
They have been...
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Old 04-07-2013 | 06:54 PM
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Just seemed like they made a few fundamental errors. Maybe someone else built the jumps, maybe they just need to get back into the swing of things after winter, either way it could be better, but I have witnessed worse.

On a more thread specific note, your car did seem to do pretty well with all the flat landings. Big bores really help with that huh?
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Old 04-07-2013 | 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by onefast8
Anyone know if A Main is shipping the new .2 towers yet?
Amain has 2 different part numbers for the towers. You can choose whether or not you want the old ones or the new ones.
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Old 04-07-2013 | 07:05 PM
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I am the only one who is running on a track where we do 13 second laps?

So far I have done a fastest lap of 14.7 seconds. Still need practice...
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Old 04-07-2013 | 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Venom1836
I am the only one who is running on a track where we do 13 second laps?

So far I have done a fastest lap of 14.7 seconds. Still need practice...
I have never been on a 14 second lap track.
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