So you are a sponsored AE driver WC?

Heck, I drive another vehicle now that I have been happy with so far and I still want this vehicle to be good. Having competition in the market makes everyone better to be honest.

See you just said it yourself I even say it I want this truck to do well I like all my other ta cars but this truck they tried to go outside the box in 4x4 short course world and it didn't work that's why no other company's are doing it. But you say buy this part (m2c toe block) and poof bad design fixed. There is a reason everyone is selling theirs and for CHEAP.

I don't see it as a bad design personally. Different, but not bad overall.

The problem to me at least was the car appears to have been developed for a specific set of conditions, which is why it shines on those conditions. For stuff outside of those conditions, namely low traction, rutted, big jump tracks, it can benefit from the aftermarket.

Until AE makes products for the car that help in those conditions, a simple one being a rear toe in block system or at least another molded rear block like the stock one just at 3.5 degrees, we will need to rely on it.

Heck, the B4 based vehicles have this, and it has been a handy tool to use for tuning.

Ultimately though based on these issues, the resale market has been affected negatively for the vehicle.

ideally, I would like to see AE run wild with the vehicle and dedicate 2013 to be the year that the SC10 4x4 is no longer the perceived black sheep of the AE family. Treat it as the alpha of the pack by running it at every event regardless if the track conditions are 1/8 big track loose. Then, go to the SC10 4x4 drawing board and get out any needed setups, hopups, etc. to the sc10 4x4 owning community.

I am confident AE has the know-how and the muscle to do it ...

Meh, I typed a bunch of stuff, but this is not the place to vent on the ae 4x4. Everyone here but that one guys knows it too.


+1 Cain, I just think they need to put some time into it. A well build center diff might make the hole thing work. I dont really like using a ton of after market parts. Hey, but the sc10 4x4 did win roar nats, so we can all hold on to that, lol.

Do you even have a clue what your talking about? Just go buy the tekno and report back after your first race, with the tekno I bet you'll TQ and take the A main. Did you even read the last couple pages? Your so insistant the truck is a failure because of a 3.5deg toe block? Like the back end doesn't step out on a tekno or scte lol! If the back end steps out punch it and drive it, use it to your advantage change your approach of that paticular turn. My scte is fully clapped out, I spent a ton of money on it on carbon and light weight chassis and its fast as hell but you know what I haven't drove it in month's. Why you ask? FT Sc10 4x4. This is my 2nd sc10 4x4, im a believer.

When cherry says the tekno is getting beat in the NW I believe him because Tacoma RC has some of the fastest drivers in the state and he's there constantly.

i've tried twice. i got it right the second time with matt trimming's truck. it works great indoors, its just dreadful outside.

I saw one work real well last sunday indoors, but I already built my sct10 tekno for outside. But.....you never know.

three times could be the charm as they say.

Jstall, the argument is normally for low bite outdoor tracks. Everyone knows it works fine on the indoor higher bite tracks. This thread has 100's of pages of people saying the same thing. And btw, my sc10 4x4 went straight on power, lol. more like donuts. I drove a noobs scte with bald tires and it was POORLY maintained and it was 500% better on my local outdoor track. this scte was bone stock and a huge pile of crap. But it drove so much better. If AE makes a sv4x4 based on the 8.2e, I am all over it.

lol, I wont sit here and quote Matt, but I am pretty sure he hated that truck lol. Most of us are AE fans. I am. I always try AE first. But I dont have blinders on, lol. I race most of the time outdoors. Most of the tracks in the state are outdoors, so if/when I buy a new sct it will be for outdoors and preferably will work indoors. the tekno looks like it might be good, but I tent to buy from old school manufactures, so it might end up being a scte 2.0. Unless AE make a 8.2e based sct.

Just some perspective on the importance of wins, this guy races with WC from what I understand and posted this concerning his Tekno experience:

http://www.rctech.net/forum/11883609-post6228.html

Take it for what you will.

Ultimately, there are plenty of posts out there for most of the vehicles I listed showing a variety of wins for the vehicles.

The main thing is how well does the vehicle do for you.

I have seen tons of people that believe they should change a few parts on the rc8 to make it roar legal. I do think ae are competitive and want to make the fastest truck and are not just trying to make a dollar but I could be wrong I see them sold out all the time. So I guess if they don't come out with a new truck anytime soon well know what ae are in it for.

Those SCTE's seem to drive even better when they are clapped out. Reminds me of my B4 in a way

+1 here, exactly!

Right now from the Tekno side of thing we are working through nose down jumping issues on some setups (most likely need more pack, stiffer springs) and appears to be a bad batch of axles out there do to breakage.

No vehicle is perfect., If there was one, club racing would be a spec class of that vehicle. Closest I have seen to that occuring was the losi XXX-NT versus the RC10GTs without the mods the pros were using prior to the GT2.

Seen people report on doing the conversions to get as close to roar legal, and from what they are saying the vehicles are a dream to drive.

Who knows, maybe someone will find a way to fit some a-arms on the vehicle and applicable cvds and get it roar legal.

maybe tekno will make a 8.2e conversion to 1/10th 4x4 truck? probably not, lol. I have thought about doing that conversion, wonder what it would cost? I do club racing and no one cares about 1-2mm too wide.

I know cherry talks about this track Tacoma rc raceway, I have been there many times as well as dozens of tracks in ca or and wa, Tacoma is one of the tightest narrow tracks I have ever seen. You don't really get up to high speeds or big jumps, haven't been in a few months may have changed the layout but I'm sure the above hasn't been put into the track. So yes my truck the sc10 4x4 is great on tracks like that and will beat any other truck brand. But tracks like my home tack huge fast loose outdoor tracks this truck is a under dog and just want people who are new to this platform to know what they got and not to hear buy this part or put those springs on it and you'll win outdoors.

All I'm saying is that if you don't believe in the truck then it probably won't work out for you. All I run is tight indoor so I cant really relate to your outdoor experiance. Not to sound like a dumb @$ $ but I think the Ryans have proven the truck can be very competitive in any just about scenario. People seem to be looking to bash the reputaion of the the truck when clearly it's competition worthy or we wouldn't even be talking about it at all....thats all.

I just found one m2c 3300 toe block on ebay but it cost me almost $40 shipped.

The Ryan's? You must be meaning different ones than me, because I think they only ever ran this truck a nats and never outdoors, lol.