SC10 4x4 Thread
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I am done...maybe a pro 4 4600 if I don't like the 4000
Everything sits nice under my Jconcepts overtray and my electronics stay clean even after a day of racing.

Ready to race.

Any 4 pole motor with a good ESC like the RX8 can easily be adjusted for smoother wheel spin by simply changing your throttle profile for a gradual acceleration so you don't spin out, or by changing your voltage limiter. The RX8 with hotwire allows you to make 2 custom user profiles that allows you complete user customization. Most ESC have settings to control wheel spin and tame down the power going to motor.
Don't believe everything you hear on here, especially from members who are known for bad tech.
I'd tell you to go around your local track and talk to the guys who have 4 pole motors and other motors so they can give you honest feedback because they know thru actual usage. Not something they heard from someone once upon a time.
Everything sits nice under my Jconcepts overtray and my electronics stay clean even after a day of racing.

Ready to race.

Any 4 pole motor with a good ESC like the RX8 can easily be adjusted for smoother wheel spin by simply changing your throttle profile for a gradual acceleration so you don't spin out, or by changing your voltage limiter. The RX8 with hotwire allows you to make 2 custom user profiles that allows you complete user customization. Most ESC have settings to control wheel spin and tame down the power going to motor.
Don't believe everything you hear on here, especially from members who are known for bad tech.
I'd tell you to go around your local track and talk to the guys who have 4 pole motors and other motors so they can give you honest feedback because they know thru actual usage. Not something they heard from someone once upon a time.
Yeah ae I know what you mean. I just.don't see a big need to have 3 motors for 1 truck. I have the 5.5 550. Pro4 4000 and a brand new pro4 4600. I think I'll just sell the 4600 and buy a 4.5 stator for the 550 and save the rest for later.
A lot of the benefits you will see on a 550 will depend on the rotor you are using as well. From what I recall, it was popular for the motors to originally come with a 12.3 sized rotor. The Reedy uses a 12.5 sized rotor which gives it a bit more torque.
540 sized 4 poles however make more initial torque than the 550s in general. So on tighter tracks where you need quick response, they will work better if you can put the power down. Assuming that just because a motor is more torquey than a 550 does not equate to wheel spin automatically.
If that was the case, we wouldn't see guys in a variety of classes liking higher torque rotors.
And as has been mentioned, you can tune the punch levels via software. Speed Passions DRRS or whatever its call option does just that and Tekin has those features too.
But, I would suggest for anyone questioning, ask around your local track what people are using and see if you can try their setups for a few laps and come to your own conclusions.
540 sized 4 poles however make more initial torque than the 550s in general. So on tighter tracks where you need quick response, they will work better if you can put the power down. Assuming that just because a motor is more torquey than a 550 does not equate to wheel spin automatically.
If that was the case, we wouldn't see guys in a variety of classes liking higher torque rotors.
And as has been mentioned, you can tune the punch levels via software. Speed Passions DRRS or whatever its call option does just that and Tekin has those features too.
But, I would suggest for anyone questioning, ask around your local track what people are using and see if you can try their setups for a few laps and come to your own conclusions.
A lot of the benefits you will see on a 550 will depend on the rotor you are using as well. From what I recall, it was popular for the motors to originally come with a 12.3 sized rotor. The Reedy uses a 12.5 sized rotor which gives it a bit more torque.
540 sized 4 poles however make more initial torque than the 550s in general. So on tighter tracks where you need quick response, they will work better if you can put the power down. Assuming that just because a motor is more torquey than a 550 does not equate to wheel spin automatically.
If that was the case, we wouldn't see guys in a variety of classes liking higher torque rotors.
And as has been mentioned, you can tune the punch levels via software. Speed Passions DRRS or whatever its call option does just that and Tekin has those features too.
But, I would suggest for anyone questioning, ask around your local track what people are using and see if you can try their setups for a few laps and come to your own conclusions.
540 sized 4 poles however make more initial torque than the 550s in general. So on tighter tracks where you need quick response, they will work better if you can put the power down. Assuming that just because a motor is more torquey than a 550 does not equate to wheel spin automatically.
If that was the case, we wouldn't see guys in a variety of classes liking higher torque rotors.
And as has been mentioned, you can tune the punch levels via software. Speed Passions DRRS or whatever its call option does just that and Tekin has those features too.
But, I would suggest for anyone questioning, ask around your local track what people are using and see if you can try their setups for a few laps and come to your own conclusions.
Rick recommended the Reedy 4.0 when we briefly discussed the torque levels in comparison to Pro4 motors which make more initial torque. His tips have it such that if I decide to give it a try, I may pick up the 4.0 for outdoors.
As for trying the 3300 with taller gearing and timing, the thing I ran into with the 4000 was that on the SC10 4x4 at least, I kind of hit a wall with gearing where the temps would get really high. I found that dropping the gearing a tooth or two with minimal timing added in helped A LOT. (like 5 degrees).
As for trying the 3300 with taller gearing and timing, the thing I ran into with the 4000 was that on the SC10 4x4 at least, I kind of hit a wall with gearing where the temps would get really high. I found that dropping the gearing a tooth or two with minimal timing added in helped A LOT. (like 5 degrees).
http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...r-Combo-4500kV
My local track is selling these for $169 It's a 4 pole 550 system.
Cheapest route for 4wd short course racing. I bet it runs just as good as a more expensive system.
I think a lot of it has to do with the now motor. Just like when the scte came out everyone dumped there scrt10 and sc10 4x4. Same with the new tekno, every losi pony dropped there "nothing better" scte.for the sct410. Wait till the scte 2.0 comes out you'll see the sct410's on the f/s. The pro4 are the now motor. Everyone wants one. Wait till the pro4 HD comes out the pro4 will hit the f/s. I bought my ballistic 5.5 after a basher had it over a year in a heavy scrt10. I cleansed it out and it runs like.a champ. Keeps up with the rest no problem.
On a side note. Anyone know how.to remove the bearings from the ballistic 550? I bought replacement bearings but they don't just fall out to replace lol.
On a side note. Anyone know how.to remove the bearings from the ballistic 550? I bought replacement bearings but they don't just fall out to replace lol.
I recently switched from 550 can motors to a pro4 4000kv and I couldn't be happier. I started out with ballistic 5.5 550 then got a 4.5 550 and the power was good but on the small tracks I run on in the NW the weight of the 550 had a negative effect on handleing for me, pendulum effect. I switched to a 1410 3800 and it stayed in the truck for a year, then I got the pro4 4000kv and feel like its the best motor for me. I also feel like the 4.5 sucks in my sc10 4x4 but is ridiculous in my scte. Everyone likes something different.
In order for the reedy 4.0 550 to work you must have the best batteries you can get and you must be able to use that kind of power. I've seen my buddy running the reedy 4.0 in the pro4 and it was a ripper, probably one of the fastest 2s trucks I've seen for about 8min at a time so if your not racing then don't bother.
In order for the reedy 4.0 550 to work you must have the best batteries you can get and you must be able to use that kind of power. I've seen my buddy running the reedy 4.0 in the pro4 and it was a ripper, probably one of the fastest 2s trucks I've seen for about 8min at a time so if your not racing then don't bother.



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