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Old 02-14-2013 | 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Wild Cherry
Maybe a 5.0 550 Sonic or even faster ...


A 4.5 is just right on the tracks I race on....
Awesome...much appreciated!
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Old 02-14-2013 | 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by ButtDyno
Don't like slow...what would you suggest? Maybe a 5.5 to 6.5?

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Depending on how tight the track is and the amount of run up you need, you may find that a 4 Pole 540 motor will work best.

I would also suggest looking into a fan setup for the motor, regardless if you do a 550 or 540 4 pole motor.
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Old 02-14-2013 | 01:45 PM
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I would agree with cane the four pole motors are much better I have use the 4000kv and the 4600kv the track I run is large and the 4600kv is a hand foal never got a chans with the 3300kv
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Old 02-14-2013 | 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Cain
Depending on how tight the track is and the amount of run up you need, you may find that a 4 Pole 540 motor will work best.

I would also suggest looking into a fan setup for the motor, regardless if you do a 550 or 540 4 pole motor.
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I would agree with cane the four pole motors are much better I have use the 4000kv and the 4600kv the track I run is large and the 4600kv is a hand foal never got a chans with the 3300kv
Total newb question, would my sxx v2 tc esc work with the 4 pole 540 motors or do i need a different esc?

Just trying to get a good base setup together...hate wasting money! Running on a medium size indoor clay track longest strait is maybe 100 feet.
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Old 02-14-2013 | 06:04 PM
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Yes that yes he can handle a four pole motor just fine I had the older sphere ESC and it worked just
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Old 02-14-2013 | 06:07 PM
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anyone but me in the world like the clicker clicking? I run the exo front clutch locker thingie, so it accelerates wicked hard and straight, then you let off to rotate/turn, then nail it again...no waiting
sonic 4.5
saddlepacks
strc rear hubs with .5 more toe in
8 mm mod
AE VTS slipper
no weight added
indoor sticky clay
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hard to beat at the start of the straight, just point and shoot!
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Old 02-14-2013 | 08:56 PM
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anyone but me in the world like the clicker clicking? I run the exo front clutch locker thingie, so it accelerates wicked hard and straight, then you let off to rotate/turn, then nail it again...no waiting
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AE VTS slipper
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indoor sticky clay
bar codes
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Bet you can do better with the clicker locked , more grip and smoother steering...
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Old 02-15-2013 | 02:30 AM
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Hey guys just looking to see if anyone has a recent med bite indoor clay setup. I'm running with the vts slipper. Also what is the difference in running the saddles vs a light stick pack.
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Old 02-15-2013 | 05:33 AM
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saddlepacks have the weight more centered and more up to the front. That moves the CG to the front and gives more steering.
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Old 02-15-2013 | 05:39 AM
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Originally Posted by lonslo
Hey guys just looking to see if anyone has a recent med bite indoor clay setup. I'm running with the vts slipper. Also what is the difference in running the saddles vs a light stick pack.
I.hear a million different answers about stick vs saddle that it doesn't help. I.run a 550 5.5 ballistic, rx8 with the fan all on.the left side. And then ran the stick pack, tried a 5000 mah and a 5300 mah to see if the weight helped. It still jumped like a top heavy rabbit. But when I put the factory team saddle pack conversion, brace, and vts slipper it was like a new truck. Maby its my driving style but I'm not much on set up but it was like night and day for me. Sucked right into turns, jumped straight and smoothe. Just my. 02
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I plan on getting the factory team upgrade kit later. Wanna run stick pack lipos.
I can see how the saddle packs can give you more steering.
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Old 02-15-2013 | 06:26 AM
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i personally wouldn't spent that much money on the truck. I switched to a RC8b conversion 1 Week ago and it drives MUCH bettter. The shocks are... a dream... it doesn't bottom out as much as the sc10 did, and still the shocks are soft enough to have traction (and i think there half full with air because i didn't have time to rebuild them xD) Also it has much more grip with the same tires and drives more consistent. The only drawback is, that it's sooooo heavy. I could drive 15min easily with my cheapest 5.6Ah batteries in the sc10 4x4 (even with steel-plates mounted under the chassis), and now im lucky with 10mins (which is a problem because we have 15min mains!). But i think that's just my setup. Another guy at my track makes 15min easily with 5Ah, maybe it's the 250g less weight, maybe better batteries, maybe better motor.
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Old 02-15-2013 | 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Wild Cherry
Bet you can do better with the clicker locked , more grip and smoother steering...
Based on what he said are the characteristics he likes:

anyone but me in the world like the clicker clicking? I run the exo front clutch locker thingie, so it accelerates wicked hard and straight, then you let off to rotate/turn, then nail it again...no waiting
I am assuming he tried it and rather would rather have the faster offpower steering, especially on tracks which quick 180s, it can be very fast if you can control it. Guys who use lots of brakes I can see having issues with it.

Ran that kind of setup back in the day with a 4x4 shaft drive buggy with front driveshaft oneway (not oneway diff) that did basically the same thing and was fast as well.

Hopefully the OP responds and can give his insight into what he saw.
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Old 02-15-2013 | 09:11 AM
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Here you go Lonso


Same set-up Ae driver John Walentia use to win the Sc Show Down Tour..

Best set-up I have ever used to date on the Sc10 4x4 on indoor clay.


Saddle packs have a little more forward weight on chassis for smoother steering and they bring a little extra pull out of the corner's





Originally Posted by Wild Cherry
Ae Sc 10 4x4 Set up !!!!


Intended for Scotty Ernst Show Down next week at TRCR ...
Of interest is the lack of ballast weight being used ...

Shocks used are Ae Team edition 13mm

front
1.2 piston , Ae 32.5W oil ,yellow spring , zero internal limiter

Location Middle on tower, outside on arm
Camber location =inside on shock tower 2mm spacer under stud
zero unscrew shock eyelet
8mm external limiter, emulsion bladder
rear hole on steering rack


rear

1.2 piston , Ae 30W oil, zero internal limiter, Yellow spring, zero internal limiter, emulsion bladder

Location = middle on tower , inside on arm
Camber location = inside on tower
7mm spacers under stud, C-Hub mod..
zero unscrew shock eyelet
8mm external limiter
3+2 Toe block

saddle packs Reedy 60C
zero ballast weight
30K front diff
7K rear diff

20T pulley Front & Rear
Clicker locked


Track Conditions
Indoor clay , med high traction , smooth

Lrp FLOW ESC
Reedy 4.5 550 Sonic, 12T pinion
Clicker locked
Ae Vts slipper
JConcept Bar Codes (Gold)

24mm ride height , 23 mm if traction is high or rolling over...

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Old 02-15-2013 | 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Cain
Based on what he said are the characteristics he likes:



I am assuming he tried it and rather would rather have the faster offpower steering, especially on tracks which quick 180s, it can be very fast if you can control it. Guys who use lots of brakes I can see having issues with it.

Ran that kind of setup back in the day with a 4x4 shaft drive buggy with front driveshaft oneway (not oneway diff) that did basically the same thing and was fast as well.

Hopefully the OP responds and can give his insight into what he saw.
The exo front clutch locker is awesome for acceleration, and I liked it right off the bat. You can nail the throttle anywhere and it pulls where you point it. I did not like it under low speed tight turns though. All the drag of the 550 tied straight to the front wheels made for poor slow turning. Yes, it had crazy brakes that way, but I couldn't get comfy in the tight stuff. Set the clicker to clicking, and that solved it. It doesn't drive like other sc10s this way, as it doesn't need to be finessed, it can be chucked. My buddy has a regular SC10 4x4, no locker and not clicking, and we can pretty much cut and weave all over the track dead even. Mine's just more sideways. He can brake harder and later, but I'm pitched sideways and stuck down low in front of him already due to my acceleration into the turn (sometimes....when it goes well....). Regardless, I have fun with the truck when it's working, and it can battle tooth and nail as is, so I'm fine with it.
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