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Old 01-23-2013 | 12:03 PM
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Please post The videos with Bk explaining the 8mm mod.

You promised.
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Old 01-23-2013 | 12:19 PM
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I would also like to see some proof that the pro-lite has any AE parts on it besides the box it came in! "fastest SC on the planet" ??? STFU man, your a riot, I think Lutz may have something to say about that IMO since you have retired the previous "fastest SC on the planet" you should should retire from this thread, Im just saying, there is no reason for you to be here anymore.
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Old 01-23-2013 | 12:37 PM
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Old 01-23-2013 | 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by MantisWorx
I would also like to see some proof that the pro-lite has any AE parts on it besides the box it came in! "fastest SC on the planet" ??? STFU man, your a riot, I think Lutz may have something to say about that IMO since you have retired the previous "fastest SC on the planet" you should should retire from this thread, Im just saying, there is no reason for you to be here anymore.
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If I wanted to hear about a prolite I'd get a prolite and then I'd post on the appropriate thread.
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Old 01-23-2013 | 06:33 PM
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Please keep this thread on topic. If you have something constructive to add, by all means, post. If not, do not. Simple.
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Old 01-23-2013 | 07:45 PM
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Ok looking for some setup help here. Below is the set up I started with and my practice tonight at an indoor track with rubber surface (most say its similar to high grip clay) was OK but rear was wayyyy loose in the corners (almost felt like 2wd) and it is not very straight on the backstretch (squirrelly for lack of a better term). Open for suggestions to try out and lock the rear end down in the turns

My setup is same as Kinwald setup link below with the following differences:

http://http://www.teamassociated.com...d_Standard.pdf

- running rcshox 2stage pistons with 30wt front and 25wt rear
- running exotek front locker hub and garodisc slipper pads
- running 10k front diff fluid and 5k rear diff fluid
- exotek chassis with exotek front saddle mounts
- STRC 0.5 rear hubs
- pro4 4000kv with 14t pinion/62 spur
All other settings are same as BK setup sheet
- Barcodes blue compound (should I run Greens?) on +3mm wheels

Obviously track is very smooth since it is just rubber mats layed on concrete with a few jumps mixed in, but lots of tight turns and one fairly small straight.
Here is a vid link to the track:

http://http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?...%3DLw86qLsnhHY
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Old 01-23-2013 | 07:52 PM
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u try putting some weight in the rear. Seems like you have all your weight forward. Usually when my rear slides out if from not enough weight in the back. I still run the stick pack mostly stock. On indoor clay my sc10 4x4 is way smoother and nimble compared to my losi scte with the mip kit.
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Old 01-23-2013 | 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by AE SC10 4X4
+1
If I wanted to hear about a prolite I'd get a prolite and then I'd post on the appropriate thread.
Sorry, just excited bout the new ride & just tell-n you guys about ..

Have you seen the new improved diff cases ?


Way more betta then the brass bush ...
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Old 01-23-2013 | 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Bbradyc5
Ok looking for some setup help here. Below is the set up I started with and my practice tonight at an indoor track with rubber surface (most say its similar to high grip clay) was OK but rear was wayyyy loose in the corners (almost felt like 2wd) and it is not very straight on the backstretch (squirrelly for lack of a better term). Open for suggestions to try out and lock the rear end down in the turns

My setup is same as Kinwald setup link below with the following differences:

http://http://www.teamassociated.com...d_Standard.pdf

- running rcshox 2stage pistons with 30wt front and 25wt rear
- running exotek front locker hub and garodisc slipper pads
- running 10k front diff fluid and 5k rear diff fluid
- exotek chassis with exotek front saddle mounts
- STRC 0.5 rear hubs
- pro4 4000kv with 14t pinion/62 spur
All other settings are same as BK setup sheet
- Barcodes blue compound (should I run Greens?) on +3mm wheels

Obviously track is very smooth since it is just rubber mats layed on concrete with a few jumps mixed in, but lots of tight turns and one fairly small straight.
Here is a vid link to the track:

http://http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?...%3DLw86qLsnhHY
You might try running maifield's setup. He runs a heavier front sway bar and a lighter rear... the opposite of bk's. Bk's setup works great for me on tight indoor, but I prefer maifield's on larger outdoor tracks... it pushes more, while BK's setup helps it steer tighter corners. I personally settled on bk's setup with the overdrive. No traction rolls but still has a controllable on power push because of the overdrive... faster getting onto the straight but a bit slower in the tight corners. You could also try running your slipper a bit looser as it will only effect the back wheels if you are running the exotec locker. This should help settle down the rear end when on the brakes or throttle.
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Old 01-24-2013 | 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by socal23
u try putting some weight in the rear. Seems like you have all your weight forward. Usually when my rear slides out if from not enough weight in the back. I still run the stick pack mostly stock. On indoor clay my sc10 4x4 is way smoother and nimble compared to my losi scte with the mip kit.
Haven't tried that and should have some scales arriving later this week to truly see what my weight distribution is.

Is it ever as simple as running a better compound tire? Want to try one variable at a time so next time out I am going to try softer tire (same type) and see if that makes any improvement. Next step will probably be different tire type and see how that goes. I am sure I will get there by trial and error, just hoping folks can help by identifying all areas that would help improve rear traction.
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Old 01-24-2013 | 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by SC Shaun
1. Claims Sc10 4x4 superiority
2. States ex-sc104x4 owners having worse luck with other 4x4's
3. purchases "other car"
4. Claims superiority of "other car".
5. ...
6. HILARIOUS PROFIT


Mike wins with the pro lite and you hop the wagon. This on top of cheating in a big race only weeks ago? You are a piece of work, Wild Cheat. Please be gone from this thread. Your filth knows new bounds and new territories. Please make your bed there. You made us suffer through your trash just to jump when one car with some big bores on it does better... How dare you.
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A lower rear ride height should help the rear stay more planted ...
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Old 01-24-2013 | 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Bbradyc5
Ok looking for some setup help here. Below is the set up I started with and my practice tonight at an indoor track with rubber surface (most say its similar to high grip clay) was OK but rear was wayyyy loose in the corners (almost felt like 2wd) and it is not very straight on the backstretch (squirrelly for lack of a better term). Open for suggestions to try out and lock the rear end down in the turns

My setup is same as Kinwald setup link below with the following differences:

http://http://www.teamassociated.com...d_Standard.pdf

- running rcshox 2stage pistons with 30wt front and 25wt rear
- running exotek front locker hub and garodisc slipper pads
- running 10k front diff fluid and 5k rear diff fluid
- exotek chassis with exotek front saddle mounts
- STRC 0.5 rear hubs
- pro4 4000kv with 14t pinion/62 spur
All other settings are same as BK setup sheet
- Barcodes blue compound (should I run Greens?) on +3mm wheels
Lower your rear inner camber link, possibly take off the +8mm mod and go back to the stock middle position on the hub. Raising the rear inner camber link was something I and others did to stop traction rolling on carpet, so I can see how it can make the rear end feel loose. You may however still like the risers on the hub however.

I also liked 22.5 losi weight oil in the rear shocks with the RC Shox pistons other than on carpet. Not sure what brand oil you are using but my understanding is the losi oil is lighter than the AE so if using AE, you may be spot on to what I was running on most conditions.

the suggestion on the maifield setup is a good one.
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Old 01-24-2013 | 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by imbsbiaoy
You might try running maifield's setup. He runs a heavier front sway bar and a lighter rear... the opposite of bk's. Bk's setup works great for me on tight indoor, but I prefer maifield's on larger outdoor tracks... it pushes more, while BK's setup helps it steer tighter corners. I personally settled on bk's setup with the overdrive. No traction rolls but still has a controllable on power push because of the overdrive... faster getting onto the straight but a bit slower in the tight corners. You could also try running your slipper a bit looser as it will only effect the back wheels if you are running the exotec locker. This should help settle down the rear end when on the brakes or throttle.
I debated which setup to start with as a baseline, and I chose the BK setup because like you the indoor track I run on is a tight indoor layout. I will definitely try loosening my slipper (rear) and see how it responds

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bBRADY

A lower rear ride height should help the rear stay more planted ...
Should I try lower in rear only, or total overall ride height reduction? Current is 23mm/23mm.

Originally Posted by Cain
Lower your rear inner camber link, possibly take off the +8mm mod and go back to the stock middle position on the hub. Raising the rear inner camber link was something I and others did to stop traction rolling on carpet, so I can see how it can make the rear end feel loose. You may however still like the risers on the hub however.

I also liked 22.5 losi weight oil in the rear shocks with the RC Shox pistons other than on carpet. Not sure what brand oil you are using but my understanding is the losi oil is lighter than the AE so if using AE, you may be spot on to what I was running on most conditions.

the suggestion on the maifield setup is a good one.
Will try reducing (7mm to 3mm) and even eliminating +8mm mod and going back to stock middle ballstud position and see how each of these variables play out. I am using Associated oil, but from your statement, wouldn't 25wt AE oil be much heavier than 22.5wt Losi if Losi oil is indeed lighter for similar ratings? Should I go down to a 27.5/22.5 or 25/20 AE oil combo?


Thanks for all the help guys, I look forward to trying out these options and reporting back out to see what worked, what didn't.
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Old 01-24-2013 | 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by SC Shaun
1. Claims Sc10 4x4 superiority
2. States ex-sc104x4 owners having worse luck with other 4x4's
3. purchases "other car"
4. Claims superiority of "other car".
5. ...
6. HILARIOUS PROFIT


Mike wins with the pro lite and you hop the wagon. This on top of cheating in a big race only weeks ago? You are a piece of work, Wild Cheat. Please be gone from this thread. Your filth knows new bounds and new territories. Please make your bed there. You made us suffer through your trash just to jump when one car with some big bores on it does better... How dare you.
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Try 19mm to 20mm.
Use same height front & back

Suggest going back to standard piston.
Go 37.5w Ae oil front
32.5w Ae oil rear
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Old 01-24-2013 | 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by SC Shaun
Well there isn't really anything more to learn here, so I'm going to be signing off from this thread. I wish the best to you who maintain the chassis.

No arrogance intended: I know everything there is to know about this chassis as far as this thread is ever going to go. All we do is go in circles with the standard 13 month old BS mods amd the bickering. (including me not being able to hold myself back from sickening posts from dweebus) I've been with it since day 1, put over 2,000$ into this platform and won't be getting rid of it anytime soon, or until AE brings something real out.
But there's nothing to learn here.

If anyone needs help in the Portland Area, you can find me at Top Gear Hobbies.

Adieu

nothing left to learn.?... why dont you just stick around anyway so you can bash on george a bit more? (scarcasm)
oh wait you already are..

carry on as normal folks
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