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Old 10-12-2012 | 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by CraigMBA
It has to do with weight transfer, and how you describe steering.

With the front weight, there is less effective weight transfer, so the car won't "cut" so hard getting in the corner. The weight will give more steering in a constant radius corner.

This is the same reason the SC10 4x4 guys are putting weight on the front. The truck is too reactive getting in the corner, and needs the extra grip center off. In the 4wd case, it's because the front needs more grip when you get on the power, but the same principals apply.
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Old 10-12-2012 | 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by ryanpatrickgore
Hope to get new bb shocks today. What else do I need?
Plastic rtr bushings I hear. Anything else? Studs?

The jury is still out on the best way to prevent metal on metal with big bores. Theres some pics a few pages back of a pretty good solution. I have some lunsford mounts in the mail, along with 3 different plastic bushings to see what works best. Let us know what you come up with.
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Old 10-12-2012 | 10:34 AM
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The old school trinity bushings could probably be the best but then when that bushing wears out you're probably up creek with no paddle.

Maybe wild cherry can edit his post so we dont have to see the pics again for the next 30 or so posts before a new page
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Old 10-12-2012 | 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by B.A. Racer
i gotta say, im extremely jealous of that track! Rc excitement correct?
Yeah. We drove up from NJ for that race. 5 hours

Was a great time. I plan on going back again next year. I actually learned alot and remembered even more By the time main day came around... I was already burned out...... just wanted to finish up and GTFO. That happens when you have one crappy run after another. No reflection of the track or people there.

I will say one thing, I thought that track was alot tougher than it looked. It was easy to get around, but very difficult to go fast for 5 minutes.

If you notice, I don't even triple during that run. Tried it on lap two and my car was bouncing around so much that I just played it safe. I did check when I got home and my shocks were very very pressurized so stupid on my part for forgetting to bleed them

Also grip went down some because they left the garage door open and the track cooled off. It wasn't super loose or anything, just lost a little.

I probably should have geared back up some too since it was main time...... I had dropped 3 teeth because I simply couldn't get clean runs through traffic and couldn't keep any momentum. If you notice there were several occasions where I was on the straight at the same time as someone else and I stayed even or pulled slightly on them.... when I was geared 'right' I was pulling so hard on them that I had to slam the brakes or peel em...... Those new D3.5's are no joke.

So yeah, hindsight is 20 20. If you guys have never recorded your races, you would be surprised at how it can help you. Have someone record it, watch it, then you can see what your car is or isn't doing and make adjustments. I know that it helps me. Guess I need to buy a helmet cam
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Old 10-12-2012 | 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Bob Barry
Yeah. We drove up from NJ for that race. 5 hours

Was a great time. I plan on going back again next year. I actually learned alot and remembered even more By the time main day came around... I was already burned out...... just wanted to finish up and GTFO. That happens when you have one crappy run after another. No reflection of the track or people there.

I will say one thing, I thought that track was alot tougher than it looked. It was easy to get around, but very difficult to go fast for 5 minutes.

If you notice, I don't even triple during that run. Tried it on lap two and my car was bouncing around so much that I just played it safe. I did check when I got home and my shocks were very very pressurized so stupid on my part for forgetting to bleed them

Also grip went down some because they left the garage door open and the track cooled off. It wasn't super loose or anything, just lost a little.

I probably should have geared back up some too since it was main time...... I had dropped 3 teeth because I simply couldn't get clean runs through traffic and couldn't keep any momentum. If you notice there were several occasions where I was on the straight at the same time as someone else and I stayed even or pulled slightly on them.... when I was geared 'right' I was pulling so hard on them that I had to slam the brakes or peel em...... Those new D3.5's are no joke.

So yeah, hindsight is 20 20. If you guys have never recorded your races, you would be surprised at how it can help you. Have someone record it, watch it, then you can see what your car is or isn't doing and make adjustments. I know that it helps me. Guess I need to buy a helmet cam
What does it mean to bleed them? To take out the bleeder screw and see if any oil comes out? What's the point of doing that every few runs?
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Old 10-12-2012 | 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by YankeeFan123
What does it mean to bleed them? To take out the bleeder screw and see if any oil comes out? What's the point of doing that every few runs?
sorry that should be RE-bleed them. The shocks build up alot of pressure and that causes rebound. When I build my shocks, I prefer little to no rebound at all. Makes the car feel better to me. As I run and the shock compresses over and over, it builds pressure. When you bleed it, that relieves that pressure and you have a 'fresh' shock again.

So in theory, re-bleeding your shocks frequently will ensure consistency in them, and hopefully a more consistent car from run to run.
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Old 10-12-2012 | 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by YankeeFan123
What does it mean to bleed them? To take out the bleeder screw and see if any oil comes out? What's the point of doing that every few runs?
I do mine after every couple runs..but yea..take the screw out..push up on the shaft and get the rebound you want and then screw the bbleeder screw back in...the v2's would get air in them which causes rebound. When each shock has a different rebound..it causes headaches while driving.
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Old 10-12-2012 | 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by B.A. Racer
I do mine after every couple runs..but yea..take the screw out..push up on the shaft and get the rebound you want and then screw the bbleeder screw back in...the v2's would get air in them which causes rebound. When each shock has a different rebound..it causes headaches while driving.
I am curious to see how the new shocks behave after say 10-12 runs. I only saw one person mention anything at the race. He said his car was acting goofy so he figured he better check rebound..... sure enough it was off. When he loosened the bleeder screw he said oil shot out of it LOL. That's alot of built up pressure
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Old 10-12-2012 | 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by associatevalley
The jury is still out on the best way to prevent metal on metal with big bores. Theres some pics a few pages back of a pretty good solution. I have some lunsford mounts in the mail, along with 3 different plastic bushings to see what works best. Let us know what you come up with.
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Old 10-12-2012 | 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Bob Barry
sorry that should be RE-bleed them. The shocks build up alot of pressure and that causes rebound. When I build my shocks, I prefer little to no rebound at all. Makes the car feel better to me. As I run and the shock compresses over and over, it builds pressure. When you bleed it, that relieves that pressure and you have a 'fresh' shock again.

So in theory, re-bleeding your shocks frequently will ensure consistency in them, and hopefully a more consistent car from run to run.
Originally Posted by B.A. Racer
I do mine after every couple runs..but yea..take the screw out..push up on the shaft and get the rebound you want and then screw the bbleeder screw back in...the v2's would get air in them which causes rebound. When each shock has a different rebound..it causes headaches while driving.
Thanks for explaining it!
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Old 10-12-2012 | 12:08 PM
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JC steering racks finally AVAILABLE AT A-MAIN!
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Old 10-12-2012 | 12:13 PM
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Are you guys running oil or soda in your shocks? I don't get how they are building up with air
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Old 10-12-2012 | 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by fullsyzz
JC steering racks finally AVAILABLE AT A-MAIN!
And they're awesome!
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Old 10-12-2012 | 12:25 PM
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So, question now is Avid or JC rack?
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Old 10-12-2012 | 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Autocratic
So, question now is Avid or JC rack?
Kinda depends on what color you want I haven't weighed the 2 but it would be common knowledge that the JC rack is lighter since it looks a lot smaller if that matters to you.
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