Team Orion Engines
#1593
No the idle gap is not set from the factory on any LM engine. Scott is basically quoting the tuning method that I came up with for our engines a couple of years ago which you can find more details about on any of our threads. Be aware though that anytime you lean your HS needle as he is indicating your LS needle is going to lean out also (as fuel flows through your HS needle first and then through your LS needle). So when you lean your HS your idle speed will increase and you have to compensate for that by richening your LS if you use my fixed 0.5mm air gap system 
Also to save you some trouble down the road, rule of thumb is never blindly trust that how the needle settings came on your engine from the factory are correct for break in no matter what brand you are using. It's your engine in your car with your unique set up and you need to adjust your engine for that. It is never a good idea to just leave them like they came and not touch them until you are 80% of the way through the break in process. If you need some help with detailed break in instructions take a look at the first post on any of my threads. This system will work with any engine from any brand

Also to save you some trouble down the road, rule of thumb is never blindly trust that how the needle settings came on your engine from the factory are correct for break in no matter what brand you are using. It's your engine in your car with your unique set up and you need to adjust your engine for that. It is never a good idea to just leave them like they came and not touch them until you are 80% of the way through the break in process. If you need some help with detailed break in instructions take a look at the first post on any of my threads. This system will work with any engine from any brand

Ron hit on all points needed for tuning an LM based engine..
#1594
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 3,769
No worries, the system just seems to work well on most type of nitro engines, that is the most important thing. Just make sure that when you are telling people about this you point out to them that after setting the HS needle that they have to come back and re-adjust the idle. It's pretty much a necessity. Also I'd be a little careful about the lean the HS until you do not see any increase in performance and then richen it one hour. I think that for most people this might be a little bit too on edge (you have to keep in mind that most people that we end up needing to walk through this type of tuning method have limited experience). You might want to just change that to "lean the HS needle until you see the top end performance and/or speed that you are looking for" or something along those lines. The last think that you want to do is have a newer user a simplified tuning system that ends up causing a bunch of issues or blowing their engine because their engine is too lean on the HS.
#1595
No the idle gap is not set from the factory on any LM engine. Scott is basically quoting the tuning method that I came up with for our engines a couple of years ago which you can find more details about on any of our threads. Be aware though that anytime you lean your HS needle as he is indicating your LS needle is going to lean out also (as fuel flows through your HS needle first and then through your LS needle). So when you lean your HS your idle speed will increase and you have to compensate for that by richening your LS if you use my fixed 0.5mm air gap system 
Also to save you some trouble down the road, rule of thumb is never blindly trust that how the needle settings came on your engine from the factory are correct for break in no matter what brand you are using. It's your engine in your car with your unique set up and you need to adjust your engine for that. It is never a good idea to just leave them like they came and not touch them until you are 80% of the way through the break in process. If you need some help with detailed break in instructions take a look at the first post on any of my threads. This system will work with any engine from any brand

Also to save you some trouble down the road, rule of thumb is never blindly trust that how the needle settings came on your engine from the factory are correct for break in no matter what brand you are using. It's your engine in your car with your unique set up and you need to adjust your engine for that. It is never a good idea to just leave them like they came and not touch them until you are 80% of the way through the break in process. If you need some help with detailed break in instructions take a look at the first post on any of my threads. This system will work with any engine from any brand

#1597
No worries, the system just seems to work well on most type of nitro engines, that is the most important thing. Just make sure that when you are telling people about this you point out to them that after setting the HS needle that they have to come back and re-adjust the idle. It's pretty much a necessity. Also I'd be a little careful about the lean the HS until you do not see any increase in performance and then richen it one hour. I think that for most people this might be a little bit too on edge (you have to keep in mind that most people that we end up needing to walk through this type of tuning method have limited experience). You might want to just change that to "lean the HS needle until you see the top end performance and/or speed that you are looking for" or something along those lines. The last think that you want to do is have a newer user a simplified tuning system that ends up causing a bunch of issues or blowing their engine because their engine is too lean on the HS.
#1598
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 3,769
Good points Ron. One of the reasons I always say richen it back up an hour, is the most common mistake among new nitro users is to lean it too far anyway.. I figure if they go to until performance stops, and then richen it up their last move, they should be safe.. I guess it all comes into interpretation of how the instructions are read.
#1599
Hey guys, I saw a post a while ago where Pit Pop helped out a guy with some carb issues and one trick he used was to "glue" the slide boot in place. My question is what type of glue should be used? I want to do this but have never used CA to stick rubber to metal and if I had not looked on the forum I would have made my attempt with carb/backplate sealant.
#1600
Hey guys, I saw a post a while ago where Pit Pop helped out a guy with some carb issues and one trick he used was to "glue" the slide boot in place. My question is what type of glue should be used? I want to do this but have never used CA to stick rubber to metal and if I had not looked on the forum I would have made my attempt with carb/backplate sealant.

#1602
Hey guys, I saw a post a while ago where Pit Pop helped out a guy with some carb issues and one trick he used was to "glue" the slide boot in place. My question is what type of glue should be used? I want to do this but have never used CA to stick rubber to metal and if I had not looked on the forum I would have made my attempt with carb/backplate sealant.

#1603
I personally use sealant on the boot if possible because it's not as destructive as CA if you need to pull it off. Even if you can get it off in one piece, you can't remove the glue from the boot to re-seal it. The CA glue (ONLY use top shelf CA like AKA, Losi Blue, Pro-Line Premium Medium) is useful when there's very little surface area. Whenever possible, I'll use sealant at both ends of the boot. If you clean everything properly and let the silicone sealant fully set, you don't even need zip ties.
#1604
That is what I was thinking but I did it before I saw your post. Thanks anyway. I will try that next time. For now I have a very small bead of Losi Blue and a zip tie and it looks solid. But I have another question. Is the slide removable? And if so how? I do not have a problem with mine but I cannot figure out how they assemble it.
#1605
Hello, I recently purchased a ORN80679 CRF Alpha .21 ABI Buggy Engine (ABC/5-ports ceramic).
Break in went great. Pinch is gone and the engine has great compression. There is about 1.5 gallons on the motor now.
Problem I'm having is with getting the engine to idle properly.
Plug Changed
Fuel line Changed
Pressure Line Changed
D8 Tank changed to RC8 tank old
RC8 Old Tank changed to a new RC8 Tank
.5mm It will idle for maybe 5 sec and die
increments there out to over 1mm it will idle longer 8 - 10 at most but still die.
(Of course I'm adjusting the LSN to try and get this to work right)
More info:
Motor is always warmed with a Comp Heat heater
I'm in Iowa where it's been in the 90's and 100's for the past month with high humidity
The motor is so new I would hope it's not a bearing or an O ring somewhere.
I did seal the motor up as suggested by a guide from a TLR driver on Youtube before doing the break in as well.
Any suggestions where to go next
Break in went great. Pinch is gone and the engine has great compression. There is about 1.5 gallons on the motor now.
Problem I'm having is with getting the engine to idle properly.
Plug Changed
Fuel line Changed
Pressure Line Changed
D8 Tank changed to RC8 tank old
RC8 Old Tank changed to a new RC8 Tank
.5mm It will idle for maybe 5 sec and die
increments there out to over 1mm it will idle longer 8 - 10 at most but still die.
(Of course I'm adjusting the LSN to try and get this to work right)
More info:
Motor is always warmed with a Comp Heat heater
I'm in Iowa where it's been in the 90's and 100's for the past month with high humidity
The motor is so new I would hope it's not a bearing or an O ring somewhere.
I did seal the motor up as suggested by a guide from a TLR driver on Youtube before doing the break in as well.
Any suggestions where to go next
Last edited by davidfast; 07-18-2012 at 03:21 PM.



6Likes