I wasn't trying to compare performance, honestly, I think all the major e-buggys out there are good enuff to run at the track and be competitive.

with 2s packs, I can share them with 1/10 scale... (not sure why this is 'bad' to do .. never heard of that.. ) where as a single pack you can't. so that's the cost savings I was thinking of, not so much the cost of a single pack comparison, but the total amount you would need to race at the track. Currently I have 6 2s packs, and I have run them in my friends 1/10 scale cars no prob.

I never really considered that people 'forgetting' about charging their packs... most people seem pretty good about monitoring their chargers in case of a fire.

and Hobby King has locations in the USA to ship from, so shipping can be pretty fast.... people buy Hobby Wing esc's from China, like everything else we buy... Anyway, Im a regular at Amainhobbies.com, and I buy Tekin, which is USA made..

no, i didn't race NiMH batteries, I've been doing nitro for many years, and the Serpent was my first way BACK into electric... I always thought the older battery tech was too pricey for what u got, compared to nitro... in my opinion, for what I wanted from RC.

dont mean to rough too many feathers, I mean the car isnt even out yet.. what if it flops like the Facebook stock!! (j/k I dont think it will) Oh, Im sure I will see one at the track soon, and get to listen to someone bash me simply because they beat me... lol

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There are two components here, balance and how tightly you can package all the components. They may be balanced (in two of three axis) two pack buggies, but there's no way they will be packaged as tightly.

It's really a mute point anyway. For all of us Local joe club racers we can't tell the difference anyway. Folks think they can, but reality is they can't.

Maybe in the hands of a pro level driver.

I just find some of the statements regarding dual packs design to be a stretch. Most of the statements are from guys that have never raced with one. There is no way to determine what is truly better. We all think what we own is the best...as it should be.

Enjoy the new buggy. I'm sure it will perform nicely

Whoa, missed a day, lots of stuff here.

I'm happy to see the different opinions being presented here in a respectful manner. So many threads degenerate into childish rants and I think there is a lot of good info here for everyone to digest. There are a lot of options in this class right now with more to come for sure.

Hopefully the discussion will continue in a few weeks at the ROAR nats and the 1/8th 'Worlds' at the Tiltyard. We're looking forward to meeting the other teams and exchanging ideas to keep the class growing.

It can be bad for the same reason it might be bad to charge a 2s pack without balancing. One cell may drop too low before lvc kicks in. In addition you can run into problems by using two packs that have been cycled differently. In other words, say you have used pack A 30 times, and pack B 10 times. Now when wired together as a 4s pack, they will discharge at different rates which can lead to problems. As mentioned earlier, guys who run 2x2s setups generally will keep the packs paired with each other to avoid issues and get the best performance.

Are new tower preorders still covered or would it be in the second batch?

Everything is still covered in the first batch. We'll let you know when we're close to selling out of the first batch. Thanks.

Ive driven losi AE mugen electric conversions. Each with and without the OEM conversion and a tekno conversion. My buddy also let me drive his a serpent side by side pack layout.

A couple months ago Danny at Tekno let me drive the eb48 prototype. There is ABSOLUTELY a difference. The EB48 was the BEST thing I have ever driven on dirt. This may sound weird but it felt lighter and smaller that any other buggy I've driven. The direction changes are instantaneous and easily controllable and the corner speed was touring car like. Personally I have not enjoyed running eighth scale indoors. This car changed my mind. It wasn't until I drove Danny's car that I realized how much I was fighting the other cars.

This is coming from an Average Joe racer too.

I will try this car out. I have a serpent but i also have an open mind. The EB48 is layed out nice and i think it will perform really well. My Serpent runs extremely well too. It jumps like a dream and steers like an animal. It has a very balanced feel on the track and corrects very well in the air.

Realistically though, Is this car durable? How does the driveline hold up? Im not being sarcastic, im asking as i really want to know as some cars burn them up pretty quick. I like hassle free cars and durable cars. They must handle great too. Im not asking for too much now am i?

This is why i went with the Serpent, As of now, i havent seen anything that can stand up to it. Maybe this car can. I would like to see. Only way to find out is to get one.

You guys will have a great time! Hope to see you guys pull it off and take home the win.

If the driveline is anything like the Tekno driveline that I put in my SCTE it will prove to be extremely durable. Extremely high quality parts.

I will also be buying an EB48 but not right away. I just picked up a DNX408 conversion and I'm going to run it like crazy for a little while before picking up a second batch EB48.

I believe a few pages ago Tekno did exactly what you suggest, measuring the balance of the Serpent. It made the case for the balance advantages of the EB48.

They make a nice kit for sure but the last time I saw one running, it was being driven by a guy who was close to me in pace (3rd Q in the mixed nitro/E-buggy A-main) but he broke every run, until something broke that he couldn't replace. Part availability is tough with these too. Not to knock the design, one of the fastest nitro guys in my region runs them and his cars are soooo good. He rarely breaks.

I've had a great time with my V4 MBX6. Most of the advantages and easy part availability/cost (though it rarely breaks).

For the guys testing out there, how do you like running mechanical brakes in this buggy? Are there tracks were you like mechanical brakes over motor brakes? Will the mechanical brake setup be available with release of this buggy?

One of the reasons for staying away from mechanical brakes is the added weight. But with this buggy being lighter, it looks like we can still get a pretty well balanced buggy even with an extra servo in the rear.

Thanks! Can't wait to get this car on the track

We have a guy running mech brakes now (indoor even). I'll have him post up his experience with them. He's running a Neu 1509/2Y (1850kv) and ProTek 4s/4100 hardcase. I think his buggy is ~3395g (just under 7.5lb) with the brakes.