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Old 07-10-2012 | 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by fq06
Adding weight up front will add to front end traction, not the rear. Not what you want.

Try the STRC 3.5° rear hub, that will plant the rear end more for you.
you mean the .5 rear hubs, right?
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Old 07-10-2012 | 09:06 AM
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Everyone needs to realize that while most of the hard work has been done for us to find combinations that work you will still need to do some tuning on your own to get the truck to where you want it. For me the final change was a front swaybar change, went to the yellow bar from blue and now my truck is on rails. Something as simple as a swaybar change can be the difference between an unpredictable truck and one that is consistent lap after lap.

Tuning the handling of any RC is all about balance, if you lack rear traction you need a softer rear end in relation to the front end...Dont limit yourself to going softer in the rear, experiment with going stiffer up front also.
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Old 07-10-2012 | 09:17 AM
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I think some of my issues can be tuned with tires. I am not sure the high speed stability issues can though. It is just too responsive at higher speeds. I am actually afraid to try and wind it up too much. It almost feels like the truck is too light. When power is applied and kinda goes all over the place and minor corrections become non stop corrections. And the end results in me sideways or spun around.
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Old 07-10-2012 | 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Wildcat1971
I think some of my issues can be tuned with tires. I am not sure the high speed stability issues can though. It is just too responsive at higher speeds. I am actually afraid to try and wind it up too much. It almost feels like the truck is too light. When power is applied and kinda goes all over the place and minor corrections become non stop corrections. And the end results in me sideways or spun around.
Adding weight will definitely calm down the truck, I think it is needed for outdoor but not really for indoor.
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Old 07-10-2012 | 09:32 AM
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I ran on an indoor high bite track this past week and it seemed like it was less of an issue. I normally run on and outdoor wet clay track. So in your opinion where should the weight be added? and now much
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Old 07-10-2012 | 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Wild Cherry
Stick with the 30K ft & 7k in back for diff's ....

Only fill the diff's half way , never fill all the way to the top .

Go to www.Rc10.com Find a set-up that fits your track conditions .
You will find Ae best drivers set-up advise there.

Never striped a rim yet , only can happen if the wheel nut is loose. Advise buying some serrated wheel nuts, they are best and do not need lock tight ...

No shims needed behind pin ....
they are serrated! brand new ones FYI! very frustrated at the moment.. going down to the track today to do some more fine tuning.. going to try 5k in the rear.. i had 7k in before and it was "okay" went to 10k and it was "terrible" going to try a few other things also.. sway bars and different shock springs.. ill report back later this evening..
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Old 07-10-2012 | 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by BorackBasher
they are serrated! brand new ones FYI! very frustrated at the moment.. going down to the track today to do some more fine tuning.. going to try 5k in the rear.. i had 7k in before and it was "okay" went to 10k and it was "terrible" going to try a few other things also.. sway bars and different shock springs.. ill report back later this evening..
The chnages that seemed to really help me so far are the front yellows springs, front yellow sway bar with a blue sway in the rear. The option rack was nice too and it is only $4. The 8mm mod seemed to lower the chance of a traction roll, but I cant really say it locked my rear in.
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Old 07-10-2012 | 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Wildcat1971
you mean the .5 rear hubs, right?
Yep, stock is 3° and STRC has 3° & 3.5° hubs. I run the 3.5° hubs and needed to find more steering because it gave me more push mid turn to exit. But I like how the rear end was changed and made adjustments to the front to suit my driving style.
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Old 07-10-2012 | 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by BorackBasher
they are serrated! brand new ones FYI! very frustrated at the moment.. going down to the track today to do some more fine tuning.. going to try 5k in the rear.. i had 7k in before and it was "okay" went to 10k and it was "terrible" going to try a few other things also.. sway bars and different shock springs.. ill report back later this evening..


Use the Traxxas serrated wheel nuts , best you can buy .


stick with the recommended diff oil ....

first try different tires and lower rear ride height( 23mm <> 24mm) to find more grip .

also have someone with more experience test your ride & try his as well .

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Old 07-10-2012 | 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by fq06
Yep, stock is 3° and STRC has 3° & 3.5° hubs. I run the 3.5° hubs and needed to find more steering because it gave me more push mid turn to exit. But I like how the rear end was changed and made adjustments to the front to suit my driving style.
can you link the part you are talking about?
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Old 07-10-2012 | 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Wildcat1971
I think some of my issues can be tuned with tires. I am not sure the high speed stability issues can though. It is just too responsive at higher speeds. I am actually afraid to try and wind it up too much. It almost feels like the truck is too light. When power is applied and kinda goes all over the place and minor corrections become non stop corrections. And the end results in me sideways or spun around.
IMO more rear toe in wil help you stay lined up on the straights more than any other adjustment.
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Old 07-10-2012 | 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Wild Cherry
Use the Traxxas serrated wheel nuts , best you can buy .


stick with the recommended diff oil ....

first try different tires and lower rear ride height( 23mm <> 24mm) to find more grip .

also have someone with more experience test your ride & try his as well .
This is a great idea. I have done this in the past and it can be very helpful. Plus it gets you talking to the local fast guys and building those relationships.
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Old 07-10-2012 | 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Wildcat1971
can you link the part you are talking about?
http://www.teamstrc.com/index.php?ro...product_id=912

Guess they do call them the .5 hubs.
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Old 07-10-2012 | 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by fq06
http://www.teamstrc.com/index.php?ro...product_id=912

Guess they do call them the .5 hubs.
lol, I thought you were talking about the .5 hubs, but I wanted to be sure.
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Old 07-10-2012 | 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by SMR 510RR
Everyone needs to realize that while most of the hard work has been done for us to find combinations that work you will still need to do some tuning on your own to get the truck to where you want it. For me the final change was a front swaybar change, went to the yellow bar from blue and now my truck is on rails. Something as simple as a swaybar change can be the difference between an unpredictable truck and one that is consistent lap after lap.

Tuning the handling of any RC is all about balance, if you lack rear traction you need a softer rear end in relation to the front end...Dont limit yourself to going softer in the rear, experiment with going stiffer up front also.

I try and preach this all of the time!! just because the rear is loose doesnt mean the issue is in the rear, more than likely in the front. It is all about chassis balance, the SC10 has very aggressive steering by nature.

Originally Posted by fq06
IMO more rear toe in wil help you stay lined up on the straights more than any other adjustment.
its always a trade of though, the more rear toe you run the less stable the rear is on entry, kind like ackerman on the front.


Wildcat do you have camber link shims under the inside mounting points?
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