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Old 05-07-2012 | 05:14 AM
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I want one so bad, but the price is so restrictive for me right now. That and my D8 with a V4 conversion, all Tekno parts released for it make it a real hard sale for me.

How much better will this car perform over a D8 on a V4 chassis with all your option parts installed, including your wing mount?
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Old 05-07-2012 | 05:23 AM
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Impossible to answer that question on a forum. You would have to try it yourself and it much depends on the driver too
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Old 05-07-2012 | 05:40 AM
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Originally Posted by teknorc
If you have long shank pinions, they can be used if you flip the diff.

Yes, the stock toe blocks are all CNC 7075 with inserts.
Great. I always liked the insert design that I had from i think EcTek or something like that versus having to buy a whole new toeblock at the inflated price.

Speaking of the inserts, do you guys use inserts in other locations like AE does with there RC8?

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i was looking at the tekno but then Im comparing both and Im like whats the massive difference , whats important is my prespective is as of your average buyer who mite just bash it at local tracks or maybe someone looking to get into competition

I think Tekno is banking on its name as the aftermarket big boy who makes all these you beaut conversion kits and or parts

without dribbling on my question to Tekno is why should I pay $200 extra for your buggy over say a duratrex buggy with similar specs ?
what are you giving me thats that massive a gap ?

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Without an actual DRX8 in hand or whatever its called, its hard to say what exactly is the gap. Keep in mind, the DRX8 is probably not coming as race oriented out of the box as the Tekno buggy.

To me personally a better comparison would be for someone with an available race oriented buggy out of the box (now, that doesn't mean you can't race the DRX8, but its not optioned out that way) and then look at price.

Using the RC8.2E for comparision as it is a popular 1/8 electric race level vehicle with what some consider a "reasonable" price. I would say at 470.00 versus 550 on amain's site, ignoring other places pricing and such just to get a similar comparison on the same site, you really need to ask yourself based on what you have seen and what you know of Tekno's quality, do you feel an $80 difference in price is warranted.

To me, based on the layout benefits, handling, etc. I have seen on my Tekno V4 converted D8 alone and the vids of this new buggy, as this would be a racer for me, the answer is yes. But for you, it may be no at this price point.

The good thing though, you may see the vehicle you want pricewise available with the Tekno V4 conversion on it used cheap when this hits the market.

Somethings are more of a luxury to have versus what you can get by with racing.

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Old 05-07-2012 | 07:22 AM
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Just my opinion but this is a very strange and unique looking buggy. Weird.
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Old 05-07-2012 | 07:34 AM
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Just my opinion but this is a very strange and unique looking buggy. Weird.
It is indeed different, how could you improve something without changing it? Just my opinion but this is one of his first quality.
I love it, way better design than the Serpent and other dual packs buggies
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Old 05-07-2012 | 08:18 AM
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To me at least, its the natural progression of where things should be at as far as single pack shaft based design.

After owning a Hyper 9E once and seeing how much better my vehicle handled without the weight of the battery not as close to the centerline, it definitely was something I wanted in a future vehicle which Tekno did an excellent job in conversion wise with the V4.

I guess I feel they took the idea and other great ones they had and ran with it.

If single lipo setups are you thing, I think you found your vehicle in the Tekno.

Next thing that will be interesting to see if if they run with this layout into a 4wd SCT.
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Old 05-07-2012 | 08:28 AM
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To me at least, its the natural progression of where things should be at as far as single pack shaft based design.

After owning a Hyper 9E once and seeing how much better my vehicle handled without the weight of the battery not as close to the centerline, it definitely was something I wanted in a future vehicle which Tekno did an excellent job in conversion wise with the V4.

I guess I feel they took the idea and other great ones they had and ran with it.

If single lipo setups are you thing, I think you found your vehicle in the Tekno.

Next thing that will be interesting to see if if they run with this layout into a 4wd SCT.
On one video I saw, they mentioned that they had plans to use it for other platforms. I'm sure they will do a truggy, and I really hope they do an SCT especially since it sounds like getting it down to the same weight as the Losi SCTE isn't much of a problem.
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Old 05-07-2012 | 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by muzzytt
i was looking at the tekno but then Im comparing both and Im like whats the massive difference , whats important is my prespective is as of your average buyer who mite just bash it at local tracks or maybe someone looking to get into competition

I think Tekno is banking on its name as the aftermarket big boy who makes all these you beaut conversion kits and or parts

without dribbling on my question to Tekno is why should I pay $200 extra for your buggy over say a duratrex buggy with similar specs ?
what are you giving me thats that massive a gap ?

cheers

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I am confused as to the similar specs. The Duratrax buggy has a plastic chassis, a crappy chassis layout, a crappy motor mount (more plastic), thin shock towers, and a junky battery holder. Just about the only thing that is the same is the scale?
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Old 05-07-2012 | 09:44 AM
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Just to address some of the pricing concerns, we tried to make it as competitive as possible on the price. But being a smaller company means our costs are much higher. Our costs are also higher because of the materials we use.

Think of how durable our aftermarket parts are compared to the materials other manufacturers put in their kits. Now think of a whole kit that is made of the highest quality materials and it starts to add up.

If we had gone the cheaper route for our first buggy and the quality suffered as a result, a lower price doesn't really matter at that point.

What makes this buggy stand out? As it was mentioned we really do have more experience with 1/8th electric than any manufacturer. It's our specialty and we have propelled the class. With all of the 'standard' buggies out there, we decided it was time to design our own car with the best features possible. We've built almost every buggy, driven almost every buggy, paid attention to what they did right and what could be improved upon. The EB48 is the result.

Pulse, I will talk with the distributors there. They are getting the same prices as distributors here and with the conversion rate (EU>USD), there's no reason the price should be so high. Sure there is shipping, but distributors here pay shipping too. If they are selling for $680USD, and the kit is available here for $550, I'm positive that it doesn't cost $130 to ship each kit .
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Old 05-07-2012 | 10:01 AM
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Thanks for the feedback, it's good to know you guys at Tekno are sensible and reactive to these questions. As I said the buggy looks very well designed so I just hope the price will stay decent so we will be able to see them on local tracks

Wartelle (biggest shop in France by far) gave a range between 490 and 520 Euro (640 to 680$) and JP is expecting a release price of about 680$ too.

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Old 05-07-2012 | 10:46 AM
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Sounds like whats going on its called price gouging. Making extra money while the unit is most desirable and hardest to get a hold of.

Anyone remember PS3 or XBOX launch? It was common for them to go well over 1k$
Pending how Tekno does with the release and quantity available bet on some extravagant prices on ebay etc.

I like Tekno and have saved the money for the buggy...now if I can just get one...
time will tell!
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Old 05-07-2012 | 11:21 AM
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Regarding cheaper buggies being equal to the EB48 for less than half the cost, my guess is that the "cheaper" cars that win the races were not box stock and were probably equal to or more than the EB48 cost-wise in race form. How many of us have taken our base buggy and spent money modifying it to shave a few tenths per lap? :-)

Regarding the D8/V4 comparison, the EB48 is definitely better. I have a Hara D8 with a V4 kit (for which I spent way more than the EB48 price, BTW), and I have also had the chance to drive the EB48 prototype. On a ~25 second/lap indoor track, I was 1-2 seconds per lap faster with the EB48 after 10 minutes of driving than my trusty D8/V4, which has always been good for top 3 results in the 1/8 Expert e-buggy racing. That's a huge performance difference, and I can't wait for the more "expensive" EB48 to get here!
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Old 05-07-2012 | 11:22 AM
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I'm sure about drive train and cnc parts of this buggy because I know how good is tekno on these. My only concern is the plastic parts durability. All known buggy producers are dealing with plastic parts for a long period and this means experience. They had also have much more budget and test drivers for trying many different plastic composits so far. Do you think you have enough experience and made enough testing on this area? You have to compete with very experienced producers, how did you solve the lag of experience and testing on plastic parts?
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Old 05-07-2012 | 11:49 AM
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What size spur gear will this car come with and what is the largest pinion we can fit?
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Old 05-07-2012 | 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by MotoWood
Regarding cheaper buggies being equal to the EB48 for less than half the cost, my guess is that the "cheaper" cars that win the races were not box stock and were probably equal to or more than the EB48 cost-wise in race form. How many of us have taken our base buggy and spent money modifying it to shave a few tenths per lap? :-)

Regarding the D8/V4 comparison, the EB48 is definitely better. I have a Hara D8 with a V4 kit (for which I spent way more than the EB48 price, BTW), and I have also had the chance to drive the EB48 prototype. On a ~25 second/lap indoor track, I was 1-2 seconds per lap faster with the EB48 after 10 minutes of driving than my trusty D8/V4, which has always been good for top 3 results in the 1/8 Expert e-buggy racing. That's a huge performance difference, and I can't wait for the more "expensive" EB48 to get here!
This is the info I am looking for right here.

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I'm sure about drive train and cnc parts of this buggy because I know how good is tekno on these. My only concern is the plastic parts durability. All known buggy producers are dealing with plastic parts for a long period and this means experience. They had also have much more budget and test drivers for trying many different plastic composits so far. Do you think you have enough experience and made enough testing on this area? You have to compete with very experienced producers, how did you solve the lag of experience and testing on plastic parts?
They have made plastic stuff I believe for there Revo products and other items too if I recall correctly.
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