Serpent 811E Buggy Thread
#2101
Tech Initiate
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 24
Only difficult parts of the build with the Serpent, and they are not that bad, are the screws initially going into plastic and diff shimming.
For the tight plastic, get a good power screwdriver and tips. This i handy for any kit you build.
On the the diffs, do not fill the front and rear up with fluid until after you have shimmed them. Reason is to change the shims you have to take the diffs apart.
Having owned both, the overall build with the Serpent is better, quality is better, it wears better, and IMO handles better. Saddle packs are the future of 1/8 e-buggies, they are much better balanced.... But overall the Serpent is more expensive then the AE...
For the tight plastic, get a good power screwdriver and tips. This i handy for any kit you build.
On the the diffs, do not fill the front and rear up with fluid until after you have shimmed them. Reason is to change the shims you have to take the diffs apart.
Having owned both, the overall build with the Serpent is better, quality is better, it wears better, and IMO handles better. Saddle packs are the future of 1/8 e-buggies, they are much better balanced.... But overall the Serpent is more expensive then the AE...
#2102
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OK I'm sold. I've been running e-bug since they were new and just sold two rc 8.2s and picked up a serpent. I agree with everyone about the durability and the clean layout. Finally, an electric specific 1:8 buggy. I can't wait!!! It should be here Monday.
I have to say thank you to RCJUNKY10 for his information on setup. I'll be blowin you up when the buggy gets here!!!!
Now...the Waiting...is it Monday yet............................................... .....
I have to say thank you to RCJUNKY10 for his information on setup. I'll be blowin you up when the buggy gets here!!!!
Now...the Waiting...is it Monday yet............................................... .....
#2103
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I run Turnigy Nano-Tec 5300mah hardcase packs and can run 20min, so I would look at the smaller 5.3 or 6.0 packs and get them if in stick, which they normally are and are cheaper since everyone wants the 6.6 packs.
On cost, look at it this way, you spend it up front on the kit or in back on parts. As long as you don't have to spend it on both sides you are good. From what I have read and expierenced in the short time I have ran Serpent is that quality and durability is Superpub.
On cost, look at it this way, you spend it up front on the kit or in back on parts. As long as you don't have to spend it on both sides you are good. From what I have read and expierenced in the short time I have ran Serpent is that quality and durability is Superpub.
#2104
Tech Rookie
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 9
hello everyone, yesterday I got a new 811be as well and start building it..the kit is really great as I have seen from the completed version.. however I have an issue with center diff. after I assambled (double checked everything is correct) center diff, when I hold the spur and rotate one side clockwise or counterclockwise , it seems in a point the gears are kind of stuck and it is really hard to continue rotating. I disassambled and found out that the bigger gear inside the diff makes the issue in some point.. do you guys think this is an issue or after breaking in the diff with usage this will disappear? many thanks.
#2106
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 3,808
From: Texas
They are usually run with the small end of the hole facing up so that you gain rebound speed without sacrificing compression damping. I ran 30wt front and 27.5wt rear oil with the stock pistons. With the tapered 8 hole M2C pistons I am at 35wt front and 30wt rear, set up with zero rebound.
#2107
hello everyone, yesterday I got a new 811be as well and start building it..the kit is really great as I have seen from the completed version.. however I have an issue with center diff. after I assambled (double checked everything is correct) center diff, when I hold the spur and rotate one side clockwise or counterclockwise , it seems in a point the gears are kind of stuck and it is really hard to continue rotating. I disassambled and found out that the bigger gear inside the diff makes the issue in some point.. do you guys think this is an issue or after breaking in the diff with usage this will disappear? many thanks.
Depends on what you want to gain. When I ran the 8 hole I ran the conical up in the front and down in the back. The oil all depends on what hole you drill in the pistons. They come drilled 1.1. I would drill them to 1.3 and run 45f/35r for oil.
#2108
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Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 11
I run Losi oils what make are your recommended weights based on?
Thanks
#2109
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I run the 8-hole conical pistons with the flat side on top front & rear. Setup:
Front Rear
Piston: 1.2 1.1
Losi Oil: 37.5 25
Springs: Purple Yellow
I have liked it so far. I also run the same setup on my Serpent Nitro buggy. But, I also am running on a smooth, tight, indoor track with good traction so that effects things as well.
Front Rear
Piston: 1.2 1.1
Losi Oil: 37.5 25
Springs: Purple Yellow
I have liked it so far. I also run the same setup on my Serpent Nitro buggy. But, I also am running on a smooth, tight, indoor track with good traction so that effects things as well.
#2110
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Ok can I get some set up tips for huge outdoor blown out 1:8 track. Similar dirt to the Farm (2008 worlds track). Looking for camber link possitions, shock springs, oils, pistons, diffs, etc. Good setup sheet for outdoor wouldn't make me cry either! LOL
BTW I had to post somthing...I don't like for this thread to be on page 2.
BTW I had to post somthing...I don't like for this thread to be on page 2.
#2111
Tech Rookie
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 9
[QUOTE=Frank L;10650452]I have built many many serpent 811 vehicles and have not had an issue with the sun or spider gears. I would build it and run it. I'm sure it will settle in.
Thank you so much for your kind reply. I have figured out a foreign material inside the diff fluid that was causing the issue , I fixed now and it is okay..
I have finished building the rear end totally, the diff gear and the pinion was working fine until I mount the rear end on the main chassis with 4 screws. after that the diff box was more tight and when I rotate the main rear shaft , at some point the diff gear and pinion make rattling sound and harder to rotate. after that point it is smooth.. do you think this is normal until break in? I used the shimming exactly mentioned in the extra sheet of serpent. many thanks.
Thank you so much for your kind reply. I have figured out a foreign material inside the diff fluid that was causing the issue , I fixed now and it is okay..
I have finished building the rear end totally, the diff gear and the pinion was working fine until I mount the rear end on the main chassis with 4 screws. after that the diff box was more tight and when I rotate the main rear shaft , at some point the diff gear and pinion make rattling sound and harder to rotate. after that point it is smooth.. do you think this is normal until break in? I used the shimming exactly mentioned in the extra sheet of serpent. many thanks.
#2113
Tech Regular
Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 302
Does anyone have troubles with suspension binding? When i push down on the back of the buggy it really doesn't spring back well. Seems like the arms are pretty tight on the pins, etc. Was thinking I may need to ream out everything.
#2115
Tech Regular
Joined: Feb 2012
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