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Old 04-15-2012 | 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Jaz240
I'm looking to get some hard core factual run times from people that have this engine. If you engine has no mecahnical pinch can you please share the following information:

Average lap times at the track you run (this will determine track size)
Pipe you are using
Track surface
Clutch used and set-up
Fuel you use
Plug you use
Minutes until dry tank

Thank you to all who share.
i run a losi re11 on mine and it has a crazy amount of top end and still has a very strong bottom end. my engine is fully broken in and it likes to be ran about 240 degrees. fuel times are about 8-10 1/2 depending on how i tune it that day. track times are about 30 seconds a lap. track surface is pretty loose and dusty. i run byrons 30/11, bullit p3 plug, and the stock clutch setup with .9mm springs.

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Old 04-15-2012 | 10:41 PM
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Keep us updated if u don't mind.
Will do.
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Old 04-16-2012 | 07:56 AM
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I have just started to break in a PSR in a OS Speed VZ-B housing, I'm can't wait to see this run inn my car
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Old 04-16-2012 | 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Mark Erce
i run a losi re11 on mine and it has a crazy amount of top end and still has a very strong bottom end. my engine is fully broken in and it likes to be ran about 240 degrees. fuel times are about 8min. track times are about 30 seconds a lap. track surface is pretty loose and dusty. i run byrons 30/11, bullit p3 plug, and the stock clutch setup with .9mm springs.
8 minutes on a 30 second layout huh? Have you tried other pipes? On my layout which is about a 41-44 second track that would not be a useable engine for races which are 20 minute mains.
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Old 04-17-2012 | 05:57 AM
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8 minutes on a 30 second layout huh? Have you tried other pipes? On my layout which is about a 41-44 second track that would not be a useable engine for races which are 20 minute mains.
i'll do sum more accurate testing. i only timed it once this year and it was still on the rich setting. i know i can squeeze out another minute or two easy. im suppose to race today so i'll check
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Old 04-17-2012 | 08:22 AM
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Magpie brought up a very valid point that lap times is a poor way to determine layout size and fuel economy. It's just that I am seeing so many extream variations on run times, I'm trying to get a solid handle on it. There may be just too many variables to get an overall consencous on fuel economy.
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Old 04-19-2012 | 05:14 AM
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ok here is a pic of the track i race on i'm doing about 41-43 second laps and the fast guys are doing about 36-38 second laps it's a very flowing track with a lot of wide open throttle and as you can see a big straight through the centre and i'm getting about 12-13 mins run time and thats with a hong nor 2080 pipe and this motor isn't a slouch either it also still has the extra shim in and running 1.0mm clutch springs with composite shoes...
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Old 04-19-2012 | 05:33 AM
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heres a small video of one of the fast guys running on it....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jaIai...ature=youtu.be
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Old 04-19-2012 | 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by twitch_1
heres a small video of one of the fast guys running on it....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jaIai...ature=youtu.be
That track looks like fun.
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Old 04-19-2012 | 10:22 AM
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whats a good low-mid range pipe for this motor? i wanna try out some other pipes. I like a really crisp and raspy sound
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Old 04-19-2012 | 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Mark Erce
whats a good low-mid range pipe for this motor? i wanna try out some other pipes. I like a really crisp and raspy sound
2072 will give u the bark your after, a few other pipes will give u better run times but for mine it's easy to hear what the engine is doing over the top of others, pitbull V corgies & the power bottom to top is great
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Originally Posted by Mark Erce
whats a good low-mid range pipe for this motor? i wanna try out some other pipes. I like a really crisp and raspy sound
Reedy 2035. I am running a OS Promod (Speed crank) with the GTR psr. The pipe gives it a awsome bottom and pulls all the way to a screaming top.I ran this pipe on a stock Vspec aswell and it was similar very strong bottom with a good top.
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Old 04-19-2012 | 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by lee_double2000
That track looks like fun.
it is a fun track and it's not as hard as it looks either so many different line to take over most of the jump sections
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Old 04-19-2012 | 08:31 PM
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has anyone tried a losi re10? i have a re11 and wanna know if the re10 will give me more bottom end?

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Old 04-19-2012 | 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by n/m
is this engine made in the same factory as OS? i know its made in Taiwan. so Arrow is the company that makes it? is the Bullit made by the same company?
Arrow Racing is made by GO Engines in Taiwan at their Taichung factory.
Bullit Engines is made by OS Engines in Japan at their Nara plant.

Originally Posted by n/m
i never ran OS engines but i know there's been a few different versions. this is compared to the OS vzb v spec correct? wats the difference between the vzb and the newer xzb series engines? which one is better? sorry for all the questions. i been running this engine going on my 2nd year and it hit me i dont know too much about it. i want to give others at the track accurate information b/c i'm starting to get alot of interest from fellow racers about it. i just usually tell them its basically a OS "VZB" vspec and it cost alot less, not sure about the power b/c i never owned a vspec. can someone fill me in on more details about the "Arrow" this is what it said on hobbypros site "Based off the O.S. VZ-B V-spec engine. Compare to OS 21VZ-B Speed & Ninja JX21 B01A" so this engine runs like the high dollar O.S. Speed 21 VZ-B V-SPEC back in the day?
XZ = Long stroke
VZ = Short stroke

Arrow is based on the short stroke VZ. The engine is a clone of the VZ-B V-Spec. It doesn't share anything with the VZ-B Speed, except for the fact it was designed with that style bottom end lubrication (the oiling hole was moved from the crank pin onto the rod to increase lifespan).

Bullit engines are based on the long stroke XZ engines. The 216 is essentially a XZ-B V-Spec while the 218 is essentially a XZ-B Speed.

Originally Posted by n/m
will the arrows internal parts fit in a VZB and a XZB engine?
Everything fits in a VZ-B.

The only thing that fits on a XZ-B is con rod, wrist pin clips, front and rear bearings, carb retainer, backplate screws, and the entire carb (just switch whole thing, I wouldn't mess with mixing Arrow carb parts with OS ones). That's it.

Crankcase, backplate, crank, piston, sleeve, head button, head gaskets, cooling head, and head bolts are all different.

Last edited by Rsickles; 04-19-2012 at 09:25 PM. Reason: N/M, edited post. Will leave info here incase anyone else wondering.
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