Cherry is right on the money. Let someone who is fast drive your car so they can tell you if it feels "off". Then adjust from there.

Also the biggest thing is consistancy. If you can turn every lap in the 18's, believe it or not, you are doing ok. If you are only 1 second off the pace and are able to do that every lap, then more than likely you need to tighten your lines up some. If you run mostly 22's and throw an 18 in there once in a while, then you still have some work to do

Having one of the faster drivers try your car may help you learn how they are setting up there cars too. Generally if something is wrong or feels really off most people will try and help you get it worked out.

What the problem here? Consistency counts most. Faster lap times come with wheel time... NOT setup alone.

Wheel the 18's until you feel its holding you back... and i dont mean by comparing your times to others... but by feeling the car wont corner like you want it to, or plant on throttle, or rotate properly at the bottom of a jumps backside to 180 turn. THEN make a spring change... or a tire change... one at a time to know what still feels comfy for you and ALSO nets faster laps. Odds are the little bit of time youre lacking is in your line... not the buggy.

IMO front tire choice makes or breaks a setup. A grooved tire like an 8175 will always make a setup harder to drive than a pin or widebody front. A lot of people get lost in trying to find the right rear tire... when the front was the culprit all along.

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Remember though... what works for one driver might not for you... so take their input as a suggestion... try it in your practice time. Not in the middle of a race.

Ask around as well, most people at the track are more than willing to help with setup advice.

Understand your point, but if the car have a problem like steering , grip , radio ...


What works ?
A good driver can drive a fast car , a beginner cannot and benefits with a slower & more consistent ride ...

Good advise as a good driver, should consider the skill of the driver at hand ...




Have a new rule


A slower drivers car is the easiest car to drive on the track , some of the hardest cars to drive have the fastest drivers.....

Had a guy drive my car and he hated it. My car is set up to drive the way I want it to drive. I have been making the same lap times for a couple months and I have accepted that is my speed for now. Once you get to a certain point in driving ability tenths of a seconds can be hard to come by. And since I can't go during the week to practice early on race day before it gets crowded I try one or two things to see how it changes my times. I do it this way because I really think my set-up is close to the way I want it. Two weeks ago it was springs and tires, this week was rear wings, next week will be rear toe. Once people start to show up I do few, if any, changes and just drive it.

Cantrell when wil you be at trcr to help me dial my car ?

Very true. Something ive aways joked about is ,"anything slow is dialed".

Over the years though i have found that what is dialed for me makes others scratch their heads in confusion.... their lost as to why it works for me... looks smooth and responsive on the track... and nets fast consistent laps.

So over the years when asked i have found myself offering setup advice at the track tuned to their skill level, and try to offer them something thats a little bit more than what they can handle so they will progress... but if their lap times fall... and they are obviously frustrated... then maybe they arent ready to push that envelope yet.

Frustration kills fun... no fun means people may not come back to the track. No people at the track and youre left with the same small group of diehards week to week. Thats no fun either. Not everyone has that ingrained desire to go faster and learn what they need to know to do so.

Its always case by case and hard to determine over the internet. lol A fast car doesnt ALWAYS have to be hard to drive... but it WILL have to be precise and responsive to input.

Again... JMO. Take it for what its worth.

I know i said this earlier... and what im about to say goes back on the 'trying one thing at a time' method. But dont forget that one change will alter the effect of another.

Just changing rear springs will not show you what changing rear springs AND rear toe at the same time would. In your head you gotta combine a setups needs with available traction and type of track. If youre on a small smooth track with gobs of grip... you can reduce rear toe and go stiffer on rear spring together (generalized). Just reducing the rear toe may make the car wash out on power... where the stiffer rear spring could have helped by reducing rear weight transfer (generalized... directly connected with inner shock/roll center choices too).

Learning each adjustment separately... allows you to mentally combine them and form a great compromise on the track. The rest is just wheelin it...

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I was having issue with my buggy wanting to spin out of corners and very inconsistent lap times. I could do not better than 28 sec lap times running 17.5 nt. I asked a buddy who is one of the faster guys at the track for advise. He grabbed my remote and gave my buggy a test run. His first lap 24sec! He never once spun out of the corners. After a few laps he was down to consistent mid 23's. He then helped with a few tweeks in setup and went out again and was low 22's and a few times in the 21 sec range. I then went out was a little better at mid 27 sec to low 28 's. So I guess it's me and my noob self. I have since gotten much better and am around 25 to 26 sec. It's the indian not the arrow!

Drives ya nuts when someone grabs the wheel of your car and turns quicker laps than you every have been able to with it. Had that happen to me too. But at that point, he was able to point out some things that will make the car more consistent. I think a lot of people can get turned off by it all thinking that the driving part will come to you fairly quickly. When it doesn't, its frustrating. Can't let that keep us down! Just got ta keep swingin!!!

NO, It just tells me my car is capable of running faster. I need to better my skill and be smoother.

Having a AE driver drive my Buggy has helped me a ton.

I laughed as it was sorta cool to see my transponder# show up on the board with times never before logged under my name. Took a picture of it for fun. Then I started driving and the board was "ahh that's more like it". At least I got help with setup and now know my buggy can run great. If only it would when I run it.

Anyone have alternative for the BB spring mod on the shock ends?

Losi TLR5095 seems to be out of stock everywhere....

I ordered all of it from RCPl...t and got an email from PP that they refunded part of the order, which was the item above... couldn't cancel the order so now I need to order them somewhere else. I will never order from them again, I would of at least expected a call/email telling me they were out to give me that option. So I am getting everything but the most important part to complete my mod....

Sorry for the rant. Any alternatives. - Amains server is jammed, can't get on the site.

Thanks