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Old 02-09-2012 | 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Hinecken
This topic is constantly debated. I run a gear diff, but many people run ball diffs. I like the low maintenance of a gear diff, but it takes a good amount of messy experimenting to find the right weight fluid to run, and it's not really tunable when you're at the track.
Sounds like gear it is, I like the low maintenance and the fact that I know how to build them right lol. My local track is normaly set up close to the same even with changes, lots of tight turns and one long straight. So when I get it set I think I should be good
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Old 02-09-2012 | 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Hinecken
This topic is constantly debated. I run a gear diff, but many people run ball diffs. I like the low maintenance of a gear diff, but it takes a good amount of messy experimenting to find the right weight fluid to run, and it's not really tunable when you're at the track.
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Sounds like gear it is, I like the low maintenance and the fact that I know how to build them right lol. My local track is normaly set up close to the same even with changes, lots of tight turns and one long straight. So when I get it set I think I should be good
Pro's and Con's to both sides...

I'm forever in the ball diff mindset. I have been doing it for years and years.
Tuning for feel is so much easier.

I just went through this with a friend who got the 22T.
Built the truck to specs and he hated it... so much he almost sold it that day at the track.
Talked him into putting in the ball diff, and behold, with no other changes ...
and he now loves it almost as much as driving my T4.1.

He ofcourse wanted the gear diff cause he was more comfortable with it, and low maint. ...
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Old 02-09-2012 | 02:14 PM
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It took me three or four tries of constant fluid changing and mixing to figure out what I like at my indoor track. Now I actually have to buy another one and tune it for the outdoor track. I really like the consistency of it when you finally get it dialed.
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Old 02-09-2012 | 02:21 PM
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Has anyone tried or heard of people trying an extended chassis on the truck? I believe the 22t is longer the the t4 just curious if we would see the same benefits on the truck that we have in the buggy?

I haven't seen any setup sheets with this so I am just curious is there a reason this just doesn't work or people think that we don't see a benefit from it?

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Old 02-09-2012 | 02:27 PM
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the t4 is 4mm shorter than roar spec (288mm). I think the 22T is 290 at long WB setting. I ran the rcrd +4 chassis and brought it right roar limit. It was little more stable on large outdoor tracks but not worth it imo. I wouldnt bother.
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Old 02-09-2012 | 02:32 PM
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Thanks!

Do you know what you were using for oils and pistons last year?
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Old 02-09-2012 | 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by gguertin145
Thanks!

Do you know what you were using for oils and pistons last year?
I was running kyosho velvets on my t4. 2c and 2b pistons. 65 springs F, 60 springs R, 32.5F/27.5R oil. dialed!
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Old 02-09-2012 | 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by gguertin145
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Do you know what you were using for oils and pistons last year?
If its the same set up as when he sold it to me its 30 wt with #2's in front and 27.5 wt with #2's in the rear. Freakin' awesome handling truck.
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Old 02-09-2012 | 08:00 PM
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I run 30wt up front with gold springs and #2 piston, 5 limiters. Out back I run 27.5wt with green spring and #3 piston, 2 limiters.
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Old 02-10-2012 | 10:02 PM
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Someone help me out with a question I have. I have a T4.1 and when I look at different setup sheets and the build instructions, they all list running spacers in the shocks to limit it's stroke. I have dabbbled in off road trucks most of my adult life and spent 6 years building sand rails and we always got as much travel out of them as we could, espically on the downward stroke to keep as much ground contact as we could. We only limited travel becuase of the limitations of heim and CV joints. Please explain to me why they want you to limit travel on our RC trucks. Thanks
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Old 02-10-2012 | 10:26 PM
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Someone help me out with a question I have. I have a T4.1 and when I look at different setup sheets and the build instructions, they all list running spacers in the shocks to limit it's stroke. I have dabbbled in off road trucks most of my adult life and spent 6 years building sand rails and we always got as much travel out of them as we could, espically on the downward stroke to keep as much ground contact as we could. We only limited travel becuase of the limitations of heim and CV joints. Please explain to me why they want you to limit travel on our RC trucks. Thanks
Weight tranfer for the most part. More limiters in the front limit weight transfer to the rear under acceleration and more limiters in the back limit weight tranfer to the front under breaking. Less limiters obviously do the opposite. There might be some other uses for them but that is what I use them for. 1/8 scale does the same thing with the downstop screws in the arms. Hope that helps.
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Old 02-11-2012 | 10:17 AM
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Are you guys using the 22 buggy springs on the rear or the 22T rear springs? Again I'm asking about the rears not the fronts.
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Old 02-11-2012 | 10:33 AM
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buggy rears,try yellow or pink
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Old 02-11-2012 | 11:50 AM
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too bad it doesn't have downstop screws. really affects handling of the vehicle to limit travel.
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Old 02-11-2012 | 07:00 PM
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too bad it doesn't have downstop screws. really affects handling of the vehicle to limit travel.
Don't internal limiters provide the same function as downstop screws?
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