RC10B4.1 FT/WC
#9736
I cant beleave how many just copy other peoples settings because they dont know what does what to a car..Just because it works for the fast guys..I dont run Cav's set up from the worlds.. I dont run on a track like the worlds track, nor at the same time as the worlds. Hell, i dont even drive like Cav. (im still up the front tho) Knowing how to setup for YOUR driving and TRACK is what every one should be doing.. This shit about i dont have time to test..BS..Make it..
Off my soap box now..
Off my soap box now..

Good set-ups take time to develop even by the Ae team , so why pass up a easy short cut towards making a faster car ?
#9740
Have you seen WC's post count? have you seen his comments in this thread and others with regards to setup and handling? The man has raced quite a bit and has a great deal of knowledge of this and other cars.
Setups are designed to get the builder moving in the right direction in getting a car to handle and respond accordingly and with minimal hair loss.
Yes, not EVERY setup will apply to every possible track, but a baseline setup will be far better than grasping as straws and struggling to get the car to work right. Just about every company has a neutral starting point and you go from there. With the increased use of Lipo, weights made a huge difference and now a lighter handling car changes things thus changes are made.
I know that I might not drive like Cav or Mayfield but if i see that my track mirrors a setup that they used, I would probably start there and test it and small adjustments as needed. Its also why I like to get feedback from other drivers about how my car feels because I personally am not technically minded to understand how the changes to suspension geometry affect how my car handles, but I change my style to suit the car, NOT the other way around, which IMO is what people should be doing.
On that note:
Running an 8.5 motor, what spur are people going with? Mainly running on a tight indoor Clay, high to med traction.
Momo
#9741
I personally change the car to suit my driving style..if i like to power out of corners but hug the inside line, i make a change for more exit steering and watch lap times..I hear people all the time saying that their car works good enough so they don't touch it. I couldn't be happy with that state of mind but to each his own.
#9742
Tech Fanatic
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Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 816
Have you seen WC's post count? have you seen his comments in this thread and others with regards to setup and handling? The man has raced quite a bit and has a great deal of knowledge of this and other cars.
Setups are designed to get the builder moving in the right direction in getting a car to handle and respond accordingly and with minimal hair loss.
Yes, not EVERY setup will apply to every possible track, but a baseline setup will be far better than grasping as straws and struggling to get the car to work right. Just about every company has a neutral starting point and you go from there. With the increased use of Lipo, weights made a huge difference and now a lighter handling car changes things thus changes are made.
I know that I might not drive like Cav or Mayfield but if i see that my track mirrors a setup that they used, I would probably start there and test it and small adjustments as needed. Its also why I like to get feedback from other drivers about how my car feels because I personally am not technically minded to understand how the changes to suspension geometry affect how my car handles, but I change my style to suit the car, NOT the other way around, which IMO is what people should be doing.
On that note:
Running an 8.5 motor, what spur are people going with? Mainly running on a tight indoor Clay, high to med traction.
Momo
Setups are designed to get the builder moving in the right direction in getting a car to handle and respond accordingly and with minimal hair loss.
Yes, not EVERY setup will apply to every possible track, but a baseline setup will be far better than grasping as straws and struggling to get the car to work right. Just about every company has a neutral starting point and you go from there. With the increased use of Lipo, weights made a huge difference and now a lighter handling car changes things thus changes are made.
I know that I might not drive like Cav or Mayfield but if i see that my track mirrors a setup that they used, I would probably start there and test it and small adjustments as needed. Its also why I like to get feedback from other drivers about how my car feels because I personally am not technically minded to understand how the changes to suspension geometry affect how my car handles, but I change my style to suit the car, NOT the other way around, which IMO is what people should be doing.
On that note:
Running an 8.5 motor, what spur are people going with? Mainly running on a tight indoor Clay, high to med traction.
Momo
Id run a 84T spur for a tight track, but thats me.. A tight track for me is 200 meters long.
#9743
There's nothing wrong with using pre-existing setups. Remember that when you're a rookie who's never tuned your car before, having all those adjustments suddenly becoming important can seem daunting, and even a turn-off. You can't expect newbies to just automatically be interested in understanding caster, camber, toe, roll center, shock setup, spring rates, weight ballasting, etc., when all they really want to do is hit the track and drive. That's like expecting a ten-year-old to automatically be interested in school. (Not accusing anyone of being immature, just an analogy!) Yes, some individuals, when they are first starting out, are interested in the technical side of car setup, but most are not. Everyone learns at their own pace. And that learning would be a lot more difficult if successful setups were not available.
#9744
Just so happens cherrys setup he posted is what I found my self using when I rebuilt the car and threw it back. That was before I saw it lol

Ik how to tune, and I am getting better at it the more I do it. Finally realized one change at a time has to happen. If it doesnt work out, take a step back.
#9745
Have you seen WC's post count? have you seen his comments in this thread and others with regards to setup and handling? The man has raced quite a bit and has a great deal of knowledge of this and other cars.
Setups are designed to get the builder moving in the right direction in getting a car to handle and respond accordingly and with minimal hair loss.
Yes, not EVERY setup will apply to every possible track, but a baseline setup will be far better than grasping as straws and struggling to get the car to work right. Just about every company has a neutral starting point and you go from there. With the increased use of Lipo, weights made a huge difference and now a lighter handling car changes things thus changes are made.
I know that I might not drive like Cav or Mayfield but if i see that my track mirrors a setup that they used, I would probably start there and test it and small adjustments as needed. Its also why I like to get feedback from other drivers about how my car feels because I personally am not technically minded to understand how the changes to suspension geometry affect how my car handles, but I change my style to suit the car, NOT the other way around, which IMO is what people should be doing.
On that note:
Running an 8.5 motor, what spur are people going with? Mainly running on a tight indoor Clay, high to med traction.
Momo
Setups are designed to get the builder moving in the right direction in getting a car to handle and respond accordingly and with minimal hair loss.
Yes, not EVERY setup will apply to every possible track, but a baseline setup will be far better than grasping as straws and struggling to get the car to work right. Just about every company has a neutral starting point and you go from there. With the increased use of Lipo, weights made a huge difference and now a lighter handling car changes things thus changes are made.
I know that I might not drive like Cav or Mayfield but if i see that my track mirrors a setup that they used, I would probably start there and test it and small adjustments as needed. Its also why I like to get feedback from other drivers about how my car feels because I personally am not technically minded to understand how the changes to suspension geometry affect how my car handles, but I change my style to suit the car, NOT the other way around, which IMO is what people should be doing.
On that note:
Running an 8.5 motor, what spur are people going with? Mainly running on a tight indoor Clay, high to med traction.
Momo
#9748
Tech Rookie
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 1
Hi....new to the forum. I've been out of racing for years, but recently decided to get back in. I bought a RTR B4.1 and the X-6^2 kit (along with some new electronics) to make some performance improvements. I'm almost nearly complete with the mod and seem to be having an issue with the RTR rear axle/dogbone set-up. It appears that the X-6^2 manual shows the CVA/CVD style axle set up. Does anyone know if I need to convert from the Team Associated Dogbone and Hub set-up to the CVA or CVD and Hub set up that would have come with the B4 kit? Is there are longer dogbone that I can switch to....maybe some other manufacturer??? Your help is appreciated.
#9749
You guys have gotta realize... not everyone races RC and truly guns to be the fastest. Some actually get into it for the FUN. Some would rather drive more than tweak all day. Me, im a tweaker. But i respect the desire for those who wish to have more fun than work at the track...




