Dunno'.. I personally would prefer too much power to not enough. Can always tune down.. And yeah, I don't race seriously enough to care. I would like the grin-inducing fun-factor of crazy power more than shaving a second or two off a lap.. This same shop is also offering the new Mugen MBX6R with F11 combo for €100 more..

There's an interview with Savoya around somewhere I think where he basically said the F11 is the powerhouse of the RB lineup and more for truggy.. I.e. probably more power than most serious buggy racers would want.. And yet this shop is offering up these combos at killer deals..

ps BTW, pretty much the only stock F11 videos I could find on youtube are from a guy in my neck of the woods, including this one from my local track:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0jnTnqgYtQ

Engine obviously has good power, especially on top.. Must be wild in a buggy..

in the end its all about the choice you wanna make for any of your needs in RC or life in general HERRSAVAGE , if you wanna stick with what you wanna stick with then thats your choice entirely

i am debating on whether to test the RB engines , i am very good friends with Jim and he trusts my decisions and respects my thoughts when it comes to micromotors , i am pretty busy with the fusion thing right and prefer to keep everything how i want it and not get stretched too thin


i will more than likely test the RB lineup early next outdoor season

Hi Thorns,

We have just signed with RB for the 2012 year (as you may of heard) and we have been running/testing the B11 and the F11 for about 4-5 weeks now.

I believe the F11 (in standard trim, let alone modified) would be way to much for a buggy on our Australian tracks. I am sure you could run it in a buggy, but man you would need to smooth on the trigger.

We run it in a Mugen Truggy and at the recent SA State Titles the thing was pulling power wheel stands out of the corners (track was very, very blue groove). God knows what it would have done to a Buggy.

Cheers

Mark

I have tried the F11/R11 in buggy and unless your just looking for something to make you grin ear to ear it's going to be too much in a buggy for someone serious about racing IMO. Sure you can de-tune it and try to clutch it to make it easier to drive but to me a nitro engine should be tuned at a full race tune when racing. How else are you going to get the maximum fuel economy out of the engine? Not to mention setting these engines a little rich leads to issues of flaming out after fuel stops among other things.

As for the 2058 vs the 2087.... the 2058 will make the initial power a little more smooth but not much. The 2058 will reach RPM's and a high pitch tone on a long straight that you won't hear out of the 2087. I got about 30 seconds more run time from a 2087 vs a 2058 on all RB's I tested it on (B11, X11, F11) If you already have a 2058 pipe you can run it and know it's gona scream on that pipe!!!

Anyone have an ETA on the 2012 line up? Don't know weather to get a B11 now or wait till the B12 comes out.

don't worry nick.. you'll get one either way

I would wait a little while unless you don't mind buying the 11 and whatever comes out next year when your wanting to try whats new. Ever since I have been running RB's there is a new model every year. Sometimes small updates to the previous year and sometimes new engines....

Another F11 pipe question. I am going to be getting it, and am wondering if I should maybe sell the 2087 from the combo new. I have the following to work with:

1.) NR 9901 with short or long header
2.) Aplus 0801
3.) 053
4.) JP-4
5.) 2063
6.) 2041
7.) 2047

The F11 seems to be more of a top-end engine, so I was thinking maybe the 053(more of a low-to-mid pipe afaik..) would be a good fit. Just assuming here - the F11 will rev high, so maybe a pipe more focussed on low-end powe would match it well?.. And here in Germany anyway everybody seems to love the 2041 on everything... I'd love a new 2058, but it's not in the cards right now.. Need other stuff, and have all these other pipes just laying around..

Also, I assume NR plugs are identical to RB plugs, and I should take either?..

ps Just read this:

http://www.rmv-lounge.de/2011/02/21/...inem-rb-motor/

These guys are basically saying, if you run Tornado fuel - as I do - you should run OS (Ninja) plugs... Hmm...

I've tried 9901 and 2045 on a Killer. Many drivers likes the performance from the 2045. I found the 9901 gave the engine more power. With the 2045 the engine was quiet lame, but perhaps easier to control for some drivers.

At a race last month I was pitman for a RB Fire. The engine ran ok (under 2 liters of fuel). When we changed to a Novarossi C6TGC plug the engine ran PERFECT. HUUUGE different in performance between RB#6 and Nova plugs. Perhaps the RB plug was a "monday" plug (it was not the plug that was used during break-in).

Check my edit re plugs..

ps So you say the 2045 is lame, and it's supposed to be even stronger than the 2087?......

Interesting about the plugs. The guy with the Fire engine ran Lamberto fuel.

Thats only my non expert experience. The 2045 felt like I ran shofter clutch springs even tho it was the same springs I ran with the 9901.

I would say out of the pipes you have to actually try that 2087 pipe if your not going to get a 2058. The 2087 makes more torque than a 2045 does and if your putting the F11 in a buggy your not gona be looking for any extra bottom end unless you enjoy spinning your tires till they are bald.
As for the plugs, the RB plugs are more like the Nova cold body plug so i only run the number 5 if using and RB plug. The c5tgc plug is a hot bodied plug and will allow the engine to run good even on a not so good tune. The c6tgc will also show similar results as it is hotter than the RB6.

FYI for anyone that has or wants to buy or try the Nova Rossi 2096 , its a fairly new model, it is exactly like the RB 2045 pipe, side by side, the only thing different that I can see, it looking beefier.

Chris, what header do you use with the 2087? Do you use the header with that pipe on all the engines you? For those who have tried the 2087, the header can make a major difference in how your engine will perform.

On the 2087 I have been running the 204mm header on truck and the 192 on car. Sometimes the 198 on car as well if traction is high. Also if you know anyone with an extra 2058 pipe laying around you should strap that in and try it one time. The run time isn't quite as good but it will really wake up the engine if you dig on lots of power!!! 2045 is still my favorite pipe to run if I want a lot of mileage and traction is low. That pipe just makes the engine sooo controllable!!!