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Originally Posted by dsms4ever
(Post 14467085)
Am I being paranoid here???
If the company is saying that the $50 dollar Hobby Wing esc is perfect for this motor, why waste money on something more expensive. If it's not about providing amps is it honestly about "feeling", "settings", or "ability to increase esc timing"? I'm beginning to understand why the old man at our local shop thinks its ridiculous how insane people get about obsessing over these minute details when honestly the people who win are just better drivers. I find myself becoming way too OCD about the hop ups and settings rather than just focusing on becoming a better driver. I only run the HW v3.1 when running mod motors because of the amp draw. |
Talked to Kevin today as trincorp received my motor today to check it over. Sensor board was fine, but they replaced it anyways just to be sure, and he bumped up the timing more so now it will pull 5.5 amps, and about 23500 Rpms. I guess I'm really confused about why this motor is better than others because 5.5 amps seems like nothing, and so does 23500 rpm for a certified motor. We'll see if I still have my stuttering problem and cog problem on very light throttle upon take off
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Originally Posted by dsms4ever
(Post 14471993)
Talked to Kevin today as trincorp received my motor today to check it over. Sensor board was fine, but they replaced it anyways just to be sure, and he bumped up the timing more so now it will pull 5.5 amps, and about 23500 Rpms. I guess I'm really confused about why this motor is better than others because 5.5 amps seems like nothing, and so does 23500 rpm for a certified motor. We'll see if I still have my stuttering problem and cog problem on very light throttle upon take off
AMP KV RPM Timing 4.9 3053 24123 48* 5.2 2981 23552 49* 6.4 3248 25667 50* 4.8 3015 23826 47* |
The end bell mark was already 59* so not sure what it is now and what it's actually set at now.
I also ordered a hobby wing xr10 esc and programmer today so if the tekin still cogs the motor hopefully the hobby wing won't. Kevin said motors should not cog at all! |
6 on amp draw on the 24k the d4's where 9.
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End bell timing vs test
Originally Posted by MelKF2
(Post 14326666)
It's all good! I was just referring to the Manual. I have to different types of motor checkers (SkyRC,G Force) and every motor I have tested including my Certified motor's the timing that is shown on the end Bell has never been the same as the timing on my dynos. Most are much lower! I have seen up to 10* of timing difference. I never really pay attention to end Bell mark's until a test them, and then I just scratch I new mark. So test your motor's you might be surprised I was!
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Originally Posted by Drbrake
(Post 14472850)
Just bought 24ko end bell set at 50 from factory per the instructions. Tested with my G force program box and it shows 38 degrees?? Any thought?
12* split is the largest I've ever seen though. I bet the phases are all over the place too. 38-55-45 <- example. |
Just bought a 24KO. end bell came set at 50 deg like the factory said. my Gforce Progbox says the motor timing is 38 deg. the performance was only fair and ran cool <130.
I think I will move the end bell until I get 50 deg on the readout box and see what happens. Any comments?? |
Originally Posted by Drbrake
(Post 14475235)
Just bought a 24KO. end bell came set at 50 deg like the factory said. my Gforce Progbox says the motor timing is 38 deg. the performance was only fair and ran cool <130.
I think I will move the end bell until I get 50 deg on the readout box and see what happens. Any comments?? |
Just ordered my Trinity 24K 6.5T from Amain hobbies.
Curious to see how it compares to my Trinity D4 6.5T. I'm still fairly new to 2WD MOD class with my RB6. Any gearing recommendations? |
anxious to hear your thoughts on the motor, i have the 17.5 but have been eyeing up a 6.5 for mod too.
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I've never raced stock class before. But I can say this. The D4 6.5T is a little to much on the RB6 but, it's makes for a really smooth setup.
On high bite it will nose up even turning in at 35-40mph. I can't wait to try the Trinity 24K to see how it compares. |
Amainhobbies just shipped my Trinity 24K 6.5T motor.
I will have it on the 5th of this month on Thursday. I will post back with pics, and what not comparing it to my Trinity D4 6.5T It's not a replacement by any means, as I love my D4! We will see. Thanks everyone. This thread needs some more action lol. |
So, I've been doing a ton of work with my 21.5t 24k in USGT. I started with a roll out of 3.9 and it was pretty dang good. I tried lower at 3.8 and my lap times dropped. So, I went the other way and the car got much faster! I ran all the way up to 4.14 and the car was still crazy fast. I have finally settles on a final ratio of 4.09.
On a side note, I tested several different high end batteries with this motor and nothing unlocked the true power of the motor like the Trinity HV Whitecarbon pack! Don't go big on motor and forget about your battery! |
Originally Posted by RedBMaster
(Post 14517426)
So, I've been doing a ton of work with my 21.5t 24k in USGT. I started with a roll out of 3.9 and it was pretty dang good. I tried lower at 3.8 and my lap times dropped. So, I went the other way and the car got much faster! I ran all the way up to 4.14 and the car was still crazy fast. I have finally settles on a final ratio of 4.09.
On a side note, I tested several different high end batteries with this motor and nothing unlocked the true power of the motor like the Trinity HV Whitecarbon pack! Don't go big on motor and forget about your battery! HV will unlock more and tested it against other HV packs, they are all comparable between brands. |
Just got mine today! Ready to run it this weekend in my RB6. I am running TrakPower 100C 5200MAH saddle packs. I have successfully charged them to 4.35V several cycles without issues. They have a ton of punch!
http://i1371.photobucket.com/albums/...psti9wo9tf.jpg http://i1371.photobucket.com/albums/...psostpms0a.jpg |
Originally Posted by tps3443
(Post 14518662)
Just got mine today! Ready to run it this weekend in my RB6. I am running TrakPower 100C 5200MAH saddle packs. I have successfully charged them to 4.35V several cycles without issues. They have a ton of punch!
http://i1371.photobucket.com/albums/...psti9wo9tf.jpg http://i1371.photobucket.com/albums/...psostpms0a.jpg |
Originally Posted by R3VoLuTiOn
(Post 14518683)
you shouldnt charge those past 4.22/cell if theyre not the HV lipo.
I'm not sure if it's a marketing gimmick or not lol. I love Team Trinity products. There lipos and motors are amazing. I have (3) Trinity motors now. And I don't doubt there LIHV Lipo carbon packs are good. But, I have yet to find a standard Lipo that will not reliably charge to 4.35V per cell. I run only Trakpower 100C Saddles right now. I've been very happy with them |
Anyone know the best break in method for a new Trinity motor?
Also, my Trinity D4 6.5T has a 12.5MM broad power band "Red" rotor. My Trinity 24K revtech 6.5T has a 12.00MM Med-high RPM "Blue" rotor. I love revving to the moon! But, if I want more torque for my ZX6 can't I just switch them around? What if I put the certified rotors for extreme RPM in there? Does this affect the motor turns? Or any down sides to this ? |
Originally Posted by tps3443
(Post 14519798)
Anyone know the best break in method for a new Trinity motor?
Also, my Trinity D4 6.5T has a 12.5MM broad power band "Red" rotor. My Trinity 24K revtech 6.5T has a 12.00MM Med-high RPM "Blue" rotor. I love revving to the moon! But, if I want more torque for my ZX6 can't I just switch them around? What if I put the certified rotors for extreme RPM in there? Does this affect the motor turns? Or any down sides to this ? If you want extreme RPM you can opt to use a mid torque rotor or try a 12.3mm rotor. |
Originally Posted by Dino_D
(Post 14517758)
The 24k likes to rev and is it more of a RPM motor. I run between 4 to 4.2 on the FDR on small or mid sized indoor tracks. Timing is between 48 to 53. I tried low timing with a lower FDR but this motor prefers higher timing and a higher FDR. If you have a motor checker, try to get the max rpm and kv without a spike in amp draw as you move up on the timing. If the amp suddenly spikes as you move up another degree, you went to far.
HV will unlock more and tested it against other HV packs, they are all comparable between brands. |
Originally Posted by tps3443
(Post 14519798)
Anyone know the best break in method for a new Trinity motor?
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Love this 24K Trinity motor
I am loving this Team Trinity 24K 6.5T more and more.
I've set my R10 Pro to a punch profile #3. I am running 10° of boost. And 15° of turbo timming. And I and running 33° total timming on the motor for a total of 58° of timming. Man does it scream on a straight! Nice smooth power band. Running a 25T aluminum Trinity pinion and temps are super cool! Coming off around 140F usually. Life's good. |
For a 17.5 motor, what is the amp draw that most people are aiming for with these motor? I know that on my D4 1s motors that they like 7.7-8 amps. Much more than that and they lost a lot of bottom end
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For my certified 17.5 24k, trinity set it up for me running 2wd buggy, set timing on the can to 60 and I think it only pulls like 5.5 amps and the sticker says 22300 or so rpm.
Why is this thread dead? I was under the impression that this motor was the one to buy... I called trinity this morning to talk about what the whole short stack gig was truly about and what would be better for a 13.5 motor... The d4 1s or the new 24k... They re assured me the 24k would be the best. I guess it's like everything else with electronics it's all about preference once it's "good enough". |
I have try my new 24k 13.5 on 1/10 touring blinky, nice motor plenty of torque, i have try fdr 3.89 @50 timing, but i not have see high speed comparated with the other cars on track, next time i want to try fdr 3.68@50 timing, i use lrp flow with firmw 5.4 initial drive 18%, track with a stright of 30 meters, some suggestion?
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Originally Posted by dsms4ever
(Post 14536755)
Why is this thread dead?
So it is kind of out-of-sight out-of-mind. |
Originally Posted by Lizard66
(Post 14544128)
I have try my new 24k 13.5 on 1/10 touring blinky, nice motor plenty of torque, i have try fdr 3.89 @50 timing, but i not have see high speed comparated with the other cars on track, next time i want to try fdr 3.68@50 timing, i use lrp flow with firmw 5.4 initial drive 18%, track with a stright of 30 meters, some suggestion?
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Why in the world so you have a sub 4 fdr??? I'm running like a 6.5 for my 24k 17.5. Let the motor rev out!! I'll start at probably an 8 with my 13.5. What spur and pinion are you running??
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He probably means for touring car, not buggy.
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yes touring car
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Anyone know if the D4 sensor will work as a replacement? Nobody has them in stock and i refuse to pay $19 shipping from trinity.
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Originally Posted by GNCC407
(Post 14549508)
Anyone know if the D4 sensor will work as a replacement? Nobody has them in stock and i refuse to pay $19 shipping from trinity.
D4--TEP1732 24K-REV1832 |
Thats what i was thinking. I'll wait till Amain gets them in stock.
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Which is exactly why this should be under the b5m or off road thread..
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So they have a certified plus now...... Having owned 3 certs, they should have done all that to the certs. not have another level of certification.
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Originally Posted by Dino_D
(Post 14558877)
So they have a certified plus now...... Having owned 3 certs, they should have done all that to the certs. not have another level of certification.
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Do they make a 24k 25.5 'certified'?
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Doesn't ROAR have a rule that states a stock motor can only cost a maximum $149. The new "plus" motor is $175...
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