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Old 07-06-2019, 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by ottoman
Both my Ichargers charge at whatever amps I set them at... until they taper off close to a full charge as all lipo chargers do.
Then im not doing something right. Thank you
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Old 07-06-2019, 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Bry195

Then im not doing something right. Thank you

Some chargers will limit the max current charge depending on what your input voltage is. I have a Thunder power that has input of 12-30v. So I use it at 12 volt and no matter if I set to charge at 30amps, it'll cap it to lest say 20amps. The manual says I need an input of 24 volt to get the 30amp charge rate. I use this charger at home as a mule and use the Junsi chargers at the track. The Duo will charge at what ever you set it at as mentioned above. Users must exercise responsibility and this charger will deliver.
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When doing a cycle what volts do you guys discharge the cells to before you charge the battery?

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Old 07-07-2019, 09:01 PM
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So I just got this charger and I’m using the rl 12 volt 75 amp 900 watt power supply. I have no problems charges two 2s lipo batteries at 40 amps each but I can only charge a 4s lipo at about 28 amps and a 6s lipo at about 19 amps. Does this sound about right? Looks like each channel is making out at about 470ish watts. What do I need to charge a 4s or 6s battery at 40 amps? I guess I need a 24 volt power supply? Does anyone actually run a 24volt power supply?
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Originally Posted by riceball777
So I just got this charger and I’m using the rl 12 volt 75 amp 900 watt power supply. I have no problems charges two 2s lipo batteries at 40 amps each but I can only charge a 4s lipo at about 28 amps and a 6s lipo at about 19 amps. Does this sound about right? Looks like each channel is making out at about 470ish watts. What do I need to charge a 4s or 6s battery at 40 amps? I guess I need a 24 volt power supply? Does anyone actually run a 24volt power supply?
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Old 07-11-2019, 11:50 AM
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The 406 has an input current limit, so you will definitely need a higher voltage supply to get 40 amps on your 4s and 6s packs.
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Originally Posted by 071crazy
The 406 has an input current limit, so you will definitely need a higher voltage supply to get 40 amps on your 4s and 6s packs.
the icharger has an input limit of 10-30volts and 60amps max. The rl power supply is 12volts, 75amps and 900 watts. 12 volts multiplex with 60 amps should give 720 watts of power. A 4s battery is 16.8volts fully charged. 16.8 volts times a 40 amp charge rate requires 672 watts of power. My question is why can’t I charge a 4s lipo at 40 amps. Is my math wrong? I just want to learn.
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Originally Posted by riceball777


the icharger has an input limit of 10-30volts and 60amps max. The rl power supply is 12volts, 75amps and 900 watts. 12 volts multiplex with 60 amps should give 720 watts of power. A 4s battery is 16.8volts fully charged. 16.8 volts times a 40 amp charge rate requires 672 watts of power. My question is why can’t I charge a 4s lipo at 40 amps. Is my math wrong? I just want to learn.
I just want to know what kind of speeds you are getting with 40amp charges on 4S lol.
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Originally Posted by ChadoSan
I just want to know what kind of speeds you are getting with 40amp charges on 4S lol.
my question is me asking why Am I not able to change my 4s batteries at 40 amps? I have a 12 volt 900 watt 75 amp power supply and when I try to charge my 4s batteries at 40 amps it only goes up to about a 29amp charge rate and won’t go up any higher. A 29amp charge rate on 4s is only 480watts of power. With 2s batteries I have no issues charging at 40amps.
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According to the manual, the maximum charge capacity (1400W overall / 1000W per channel) requires an input voltage >23.5V - maybe 12V is not enough for the 4S@40A (672W) you are looking for...? After all, 672 is about 2/3 of the 1000W max per channel, so it might require around 18V for that?
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Originally Posted by DirkW
According to the manual, the maximum charge capacity (1400W overall / 1000W per channel) requires an input voltage >23.5V - maybe 12V is not enough for the 4S@40A (672W) you are looking for...? After all, 672 is about 2/3 of the 1000W max per channel, so it might require around 18V for that?
i wish an expert or an electrician would chime in here.
From what I under stand power should be voltage x amps. Like I said I use the standard 12 volt power supply that almost everyone uses. The rl/ sure speed/ motive which is 12 volts 900 watts and 75 amps. The Icharger had a max input of 60 amps. So 60amps x 12 volts should equal 720 watts of available power. 720 watts is more than enough to charge a 4s batters at 40amps. But it only maxes out at 29 amps on my icharger. I just want to know if I’m doing my math wrong? Or am I missing something in this equation.

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Originally Posted by riceball777


the icharger has an input limit of 10-30volts and 60amps max. The rl power supply is 12volts, 75amps and 900 watts. 12 volts multiplex with 60 amps should give 720 watts of power. A 4s battery is 16.8volts fully charged. 16.8 volts times a 40 amp charge rate requires 672 watts of power. My question is why can’t I charge a 4s lipo at 40 amps. Is my math wrong? I just want to learn.
If i remember correctly, the input limit of the 406 is 60 amps total, and a limit 47 amps per channel. 47*12 = 564 watts. That would get you to about 33.5 amps maximum @ 16.8 volts.

A charger does not operate at 100 percent efficiency. Some of that power is being dissipated as heat, which is why your fans turn on at higher charge rates.

Fair disclosure, i'm not an electrician.

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Old 07-29-2019, 09:33 PM
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I love the ICharger, but they need to make it way easier to adjust the voltage. I adjust it like twice a year and it takes me 30 minutes to figure out how to do it. If I did it regularly id memorize the steps and be fine, but I don't so is there a cheat sheet or something in this thread im missing?

Edit: Answered my own question with a quick youtube search:


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just copy one of your memory setups and change the voltage in it and leave the original at the other voltage you use. label one 'low' volt or something.
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Old 08-28-2019, 09:33 AM
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Does anyone run a 24volt power supply to get maximum power out of this charger? What are the best 24 volt power supplies out there that can max out this charger that’s also compact in size?
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