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Theibault 04-12-2012 10:55 AM


Originally Posted by MikeInCtown (Post 10592989)
I don't want to get into a pissing match, but I find it funny how you call the pack connectors sub par, but use Deans on the batteries. The battery is capable of putting out 300 amps continous, and yet the deans connector can handle about 70 according to what I've found on the net. Even the basic VXL slash motor is rated at about a 60amp current, and that isn't max.

i'm sure the Deans are awesome for brushed motors, as were being used since the stone ages, but with brushless and lipos and the ability to supply gobs of current, a better connector is needed sometimes.

They have lower resistance than most wires they are soldered to. Where do you get your numbers from? All they do is let current pass through. I think if you were correct then they wouldn't even stay soldered to the wires. I've had 130 amps logged through Eagle Tree and no issues.

InspGadgt 04-12-2012 12:51 PM

Well I just got notification that my Gens Ace batteries have shipped from Hobby Partz so they must be back in stock FINALLY!

competionpark 04-12-2012 01:16 PM

Bought five gens ace packs for my vta, and they will be the last five I ever buy. First cycle had one burst and throw flames four feet high. This was on a 2s 5000mah charging 1C on a high end charger and I balance every time. Out of the sunlight with moving air over them. Not very good experience with hobby partz stuff in general though. Had a charger crap out up in a smoking fury on the first charge and since it was over a month past the purchase date (I am a poor college kid and bought a what little stuff I could at christmas in prep for the spring onroad season but never even opened the package)they basically said oh well.

stixvegas 04-12-2012 05:07 PM

Booo!


We are sorry to inform you that your order is not
shipped yet due to the following item

Gens Ace 5000mAh 2S2P 65C Lipo RC Battery


is(are) out of stock for 4-6 week(s).
:cry:

djs101 04-15-2012 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ovalracer1m (Post 10550998)
But what customer support would you possibly need for a lipo? :confused: I could by 3-4 gens packs for the cost of 1 of some name brand packs that are the same pack with a diff label.. Ok lets say I did actually have an issue with gens ace (which I haven't and most don't), who cares. Get rid of it and buy another, your still far far ahead..

Who cares? Who cares? I care and I'm sure there are others that care as well. I bought two of the Gen Ace 5000mah 4s one month ago and they have 4-6 cycles each on them. Yesterday during a race one of them died, no spit, sputter, or hickup just boom....dead. Today I take a closer look and when the volt meter showed 0 I instantly think connector. While checking the connector to see if it's loose to my surprise the red lead wire comes out of the case (see photos). Maybe some people may feel paying $70 + shipping for a battery to run 4-6 cycles and toss it is ok I certainly do not. To me that would the same as paying $100 for a car battery and as long as it cranks the car 6-8 times all is good, toss it and buy another. That's BS....I pay good money for a product from a company that is supposed to be quality and last hundreds of cycles I expect it to do so. If it doesn't then the company should stand behind it and replace it, if they can't make good on their product then don't feed people the crap about how good it is and it's cheaper. It's not ok to sell something claiming it's as good as any, it fail, then say it's ok cause it's cheaper. I care!

RockStar_199 04-16-2012 09:05 AM

I have 2 brand new 4s and that same exact thing happen to both of them...........but it's user error I knew better than to strap my packs in like I did but did it anyway now I'm stuck with 2 packs I'm not sure how I'm going to save them. I already tried to solder them but no go it won't stick :(

SMcD 04-16-2012 10:16 AM

2 30C 4000mAh with Deans ultra pugs used in 2wd mod buggy 10 minute mains and mini cooper racing. No problems, great performance, great price. These are not the hottest batteries, but I don't need that.

What I need are shorty packs. Any news if/when Gens Ace will have them, Gabriel?

djs101 04-16-2012 02:04 PM


Originally Posted by RockStar_199 (Post 10609761)
I have 2 brand new 4s and that same exact thing happen to both of them...........but it's user error I knew better than to strap my packs in like I did but did it anyway now I'm stuck with 2 packs I'm not sure how I'm going to save them. I already tried to solder them but no go it won't stick :(

Understood....and I wouldn't be pissed if it was user error. I make darn sure the pack is secured and the leads won't be subjected to bonucing as to break connectors & solider joints. The pack and leads were still secured when I removed the body, just poor quality craftmanship, materials, or both.

MikeInCtown 04-17-2012 07:27 AM

djs, thats strange. I had a battery clip come loose on my slash last weekend and the hold down came off, the pack came loose and the battery actually fell out, unplugging an EC5 connector along the way. Not a problem yet and the only "damage" was a slight tear in the sticker and a scratch on the case from getting run over.

I wonder if it is a certain C rated pack or perhaps a mfg date. I know when I was trying to get some 50c batteries I read a lot that the non direct version packs were having solder connection issues on the bullet connectors. I wound up grabbing the 40c direct wired packs and they seem very solid so far.

rc10t3b4 04-17-2012 07:59 AM

So what's better for overall power? Direct or bullet(non direct)? And what connector should I be using. I use Traxxas has they resemble the connectors large electric lift trucks use.

beemerfan 04-17-2012 08:13 AM


Originally Posted by rc10t3b4 (Post 10614884)
So what's better for overall power? Direct or bullet(non direct)? And what connector should I be using. I use Traxxas has they resemble the connectors large electric lift trucks use.

Lift trucks and other big industrial applications usually use the Anderson-Sermos "Power Pole" connectors. Those used to be big in R/C but are now practically non-existent. This is really a matter of preference because most of the modern name-brand connectors have lower resistance than the wire they are attached to. Bullets are convenient because they can fit into chassis applications where some direct wired batteries won't. Traxxas connectors are very good and very popular. If you like them, just stay with them. You can also use the bullets and make a Traxxas adapter. In theory you aren't losing anything by doing so, but more connectors = more potential points of failure.

RockStar_199 04-17-2012 08:21 AM


Originally Posted by djs101 (Post 10611012)
Understood....and I wouldn't be pissed if it was user error. I make darn sure the pack is secured and the leads won't be subjected to bonucing as to break connectors & solider joints. The pack and leads were still secured when I removed the body, just poor quality craftmanship, materials, or both.

If you put the wires in the straps the your subjecting the tabs to too much stress ans they wil tear/break. Now if your just making sure they aren't bouncing around with zip ties then prolly a bad batch but I'm sure you put too much stress on the wires/tabs

I'm going to spend the day trying to save both packs lol

djs101 04-17-2012 04:14 PM


Originally Posted by RockStar_199 (Post 10614982)
If you put the wires in the straps the your subjecting the tabs to too much stress ans they wil tear/break. Now if your just making sure they aren't bouncing around with zip ties then prolly a bad batch but I'm sure you put too much stress on the wires/tabs

I'm going to spend the day trying to save both packs lol

Hmmm....don't think so. I didn't strap down the leads from the battery, actually secured the leads from the esc near the connector. Been doing that way for a while now and this is the first time I've had any problem at all. I observed many doing it the same way, that's where I got the idea.
On a better note....I finally got thru to tech support and they've sent me a return number, said they would make good on the battery. I'll have to wait 3-6 weeks to get replacement, out of stock again.

trixter91 04-17-2012 05:11 PM

I just received (4) 5800 45c 2s batteries today and (4) 5000 65c 2s batteries today and they all came with deans connectors. When they come in the new ones that I just got are only in stock for abouta week and they are all sold out. They really are one of the best batteries out therefor the price. You have to call HobbyPartz and find out when they are coming in stock and check the web site everyday. They have some 5300 45c 2s packs that I saw an ad for but arent on the HobbyPartz website so I email Jen fron GensAce and ask her questions if I cant get ahold of anyone at HP. Gabriel when are you coming down to Tinas and race with us.

porterdog 04-18-2012 12:34 PM


Originally Posted by beemerfan (Post 10614955)
...Anderson-Sermos "Power Pole" connectors...

I use these; work great. Get 'em cheap off Amazon.


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