If your going to run low turn 550 go with the GT 2.0 Pro to be safe. It will handle down to 3.5T. The GT 2.1 Prostock will only go to 5.0T. The 2.1 also comes preoladed with 528 stock which is kind of a no no for super low turn 550's that most use in the 4x4 SC's.

Any 13.5 2wd setups to suggest? Small track carpet. keeping the front end down can be tricky.

Looking for a mild and wild but drivable suggestion to start with.

I had the old stock software installed with:
ddrs VI
7 amts
SC boost off
rpm delay 5000
sc full throttle .4sec
SC punch -3

It was not as snappy as i wanted on the straight but when i used boost i would get a light front end if i over juiced the trigger. (my trigger finger is heavy so i have to dial out to compensate for its girth) :)

Like David said...you can't run anything with 0 timing when you are racing..you need timing on motor and as well as speedo....

JP Richards has max timing on motor and ESC both...amd he was running MOD. Your 13.5 must be full TIMING in order to get it going. But don't just copy what I am saying cause you are running Orion motor, which I am not familiar with...but, at least try 1/2 of the full range of timing on your Orion.

http://www.speedpassion.net/uploadfi...IndoorClay.pdf

Kochanski just posted a setup at SP site with 323STOCK running 17.5 on his AE B4, I am sure it is not much different when that setup apply to your 13.5...may be gear down 1 or 2 just be safe..?

http://www.speedpassion.net/uploadfi...20Mike%20K.jpg

The web site still has the SCMaster/17.5 combo still out of stock. Do you know when you might be getting more in?
Thanks
Mark

Right now I'm running 205Mod on my GT 2.0 Pro. Using a 6.5 motor, geared down a tooth, on a small tight track. Anything to be gained by switching to the 119Mod software? I already have more power than I need for this track. Really wondering if gearing down even more and using boost and turbo with 119Mod might drop my motor temps.

Want to be sure I'm clear on something with the 323Stock software. Item 9 is now boost timing, and the 323 instructions say it can be adjusted up to 48 deg. But, I have 65 values on the program box, all the way to 64 deg. Is that 48 deg through the entire range and then 16 of supercharger after full throttle, and that's why the Turbo Timing is set to 0 deg on Mike K's 17.5 setup? Or is it 64 deg through the entire throttle range?

Just bought a gt2.0lp with a v2 sport tuned 13.5, anyone have a idea on what gearing and software to use on a xxxcr for a small indoor track?.

If you use 64* on item 9....no matter what you add on item 12 (even if you add in the 40* timing)....it will never get that 40* timing. The total timing that you can add (front end or back end) are 64* total. Thats why most of the setup were setup by 40/24 48/16 or something like that...48* dynamic boost timing then 16* SC timing after WOT.

Mike don't need the SC timing (0* on Turbo) simply because the track he was running just does not allow him to WOT...or, the WOT is so short that any TURBO is not needed....so he rather add all the 64* timing thru out the whole throttle range, instead of using some of those timing on WOT when he don't even see the WOT.

http://www.speedpassion.net/us/escsetup.asp

http://www.speedpassion.net/uploadfi...20Mike%20K.jpg

It is 17.5, but you can gear down like 2 or 3 and give that a try...2WD buggy, stock with boost. The latest software 323STOCK.

Thanks Solara. I knew there was only 64 deg available total, just wasn't sure if 64 was actually available through the entire range since the instruction sheet said 64 was available, but it was 48 AMTS and 16 turbo. Good to know. When in doubt go with what the program box says I guess ha ha. My situation is similar to Mike's, I won't be WOT for more then about 80' and that's just in one section. Looking forward to playing with it tomorrow.

new to speed pasion
 

hey all new to the site and this link and have some questions i just bought a sct master control and motor combo and first off is that motor have timing adj.i know control does not sure about the motor and if it does please explain how to adj. it .this is my first sensored system so need some help

They come with the Ultra Sportsman V2.0 brushless motor which are fixed timing.

so can timing be adj. from speed control or is that for nothing right now?

Do you have the manual? Program card? If so hook up the program card and check. It's fairly simple. It would be parameter #3.

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yes i have it all i guess the question i have is does it do any good to change the timing in the speed control when the motor doesn't have timing to change?

okay well here is my input on the sc master combo like i said this is my first sensored system and wow what i've been missing out on i'm very happy at this point with the bang for the buck side of it i could of bought just the speed control for what i payed and insteed got a free motor by buying the combo deal free is always good in my book now i'm a little spoiled here where i race i race the january race track in ohio every weekend and have mad trackion on demand so the 11.5 motor is a little soft for our conditions so i plan on moving to a 10.5 and then a 9.5 if needed so after a 4 hour practice night with the 11.5 here is where i ended up with
1-4
2-1
3-5
4-5
5-1
6-1
7-5
8-2
9-1
10-4
10.5 will be here this weekend will run though it this weekend.i left electric when the brushless stuff first came out and switched to nitro it was cheaper at the time and now the times have changed back to electric so i started looking into this sct thing and now have 2 of them and having a blast so having no clue how to set up a sensored system i dove into it head first and was amazed how easy this program card makes setting up the speed control and fast too so with that said like to thanks sp for a cheap and easy system to start the begginer guy out with at a great price

OK, thanks for the advice. I think I read somewhere that SP is working on a 550 motor. Until that time, I was looking at the Tekin Redline or Novak Ballistic 550 motors. Do you know if the GT 2.0 works better with one or the other?

Yes. Changing the timing on the motor and changing the timing using the speed control are completely different. Even with a fixed timing motor you can use the speedo timing advance.

Ran the new software yesterday. Very different from programming the 212 Stock software. Do NOT do what I did yesterday and show up late at the track, have radio issues, and get precisely 1 practice lap LOL. I think after 2 rounds I was sitting 15th in 2wd Mod, yikes! It got better as I did a better job programming, just snuck into the A and finished 5th or 6th, but that's doing things the hard way. I started with the Mike K. 17.5 setup, and the FDR is so much lower than what I'd been running, it really changes the feel of the car. There are so man more tuning options with the slope rate, punch, etc., be sure you have time to play with it.

On the plus side, the more I tweaked it the better I liked it. By the time the mains came around I was clearing a triple and a double with a short run up that guys running 2wd with 8.5 and the 4wd SC trucks were having trouble with. Top end with the supercharger function is really good too, seems to just keep winding. I actually took top end out for the mains, because in Rd 3 I was coming in so hot at the end of the straight I couldn't hold it around the sweeper. And that was with only 24 deg of supercharger.

First race yest with the TLR 22 and 323 stock. Buggy was fast! Prolly could have went up another tooth on the pinion. I used this same setup on my SC with 17.5V3, but think it needs more tweaking to suit the truck.

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Raced yesterday inbetween the rain drops at Litchfield raceway in Michigan. New stock software is awesome. Here is my settings. SC10 Duo 3 17.5 with 5degrees on endbell. Pro Stock v2.1 with 323 software. 22/87 gearing.
1. forward/brake
2. drag brake 0%
3. cut off 3.2v
4. DRRS 7
5. max brake 100%
6. max rev 25%
7. initial brake 0
8. dead band 6%
9. Boost timing 40
10. turbo slope 6degree/0.1s
11. over heat protection 95c
12. turbo timing 20
13. boost start RPM 1000
14. turbo delay 0.1s
15. boost timing acceleration 50 RPM
145-150F on motor after 5 minute. Truck felt really good, I was able to pull away from others on the straight away. I ended up 9th out of 28 Stock SCT after qualifing but the rain ended our day early. Nice Job Speed Passion :nod:

That's pretty close to where I ended up with my B4 Tom. I ran less brake, less DRRS punch, and a slower turbo slope. Our track was dry and slick most of the day. Similar motor temps to yours, about 155 deg, speedo (LPF 2.0) was about 140. Even my GT 2.0 Pro was pushing 130 with the fan running in 4wd.

okay ran at the track today with my new sct mater combo with 11.5 laps were consistant but the speed was not there so we decided to push the envolope as hard as we could and i mean push it please if your new don't do this alone get some help as i did no upgrades to esc yet and a 7.5 novark motor and this thing handled it with no problem esc never over 100 deg and motor at 160 after some gearing and testing [thats at 15 or 20 mins of run time lol could get enough very impressed with this esc here is the program card settings
1-4
2-1
3-2
4-1
5-1
6-1
7-5
8-2
9-1
10-4
i put this system in a losi calandra conversion and is one of the fastest trucks at the track week in and week out thanks again for such a great esc comb

Short course master seems slow
 

Hi there,
Just picked up the SP Short course master and plugged it into my Losi XXX SCT. I have a Tekin Redline 17.5 motor in there and after getting everything all soldered up and running it, it just seems very slow. It might be gearing (23/88) but it just sounds like the motor isn't spinning up to it's highest RPMs. Seems like it was faster with the RTR combo that had the same spur but a lower pinion. Is there some setup issue that I'm missing?

Thanks.

GT2 does work GREAT with those motor..........you can see some of our drivers' setup sheet are indeed using other brand motor.

But again...I am talking about 2S racing only.

Glad you like it....

TIMING.........turn it all on (from the ESC).

How many of you are using the new mod software?

is any one running blinky mode for spec racing?:tire:

Can I get some help from a Speed Passion representative? I placed an order on April 21 through the website and immediately got my order receipt stating that I should have the order within a week. As of today I have not received the order or any other type of correspondance. I have emailed the customer support email listed in the original order email receipt- [email protected]- but it bounces back when I try to send an email. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Jon, please call this number and talk to Albert...he has info about your order, 1-888-928-1328

Thanks for the quick reply. I will give him a call- really looking forward to getting the esc and giving it a try.

Thanks again- Albert got me all squared away. Apparentl the package was returned to the sender (dang USPS!), but he resent it and sent a fresh tracking number. Should have the package early next week.

Yes, our direct sale website still has a lot of improvment to work on, but nothing better then a phone call to Albert and he will get that take care of. And yes....we just cannot do anything if USPS UPS or Fedex did not do their job.

I hope to see you at Leisure soon......Walt G, Mike K Mike F were amoung a few that ran SP there.

hey there heres my thought on the 11.5 motor that comes with the combo it's not the fastest motor out there but my times were the same lap after lap very consistant and i think that motor will be a good motor in lose conditions so i would hold on to it .it is a lower end speed passion motor so it's going to be a good motor in the right conditions upgrade motor and things will get better .if you ordered it from a-main the speed control was the same price as the combo so it was a free motor in my book nothing wrong with free

I've talked to them and all seem very pleased with their SP stuff. Was having heat issues with my brothers DEX410 running a tekin so I decided to switch to this and give it a try. If it all works out I may be switching everything over to SP. Everyone says the throttle and brake response is among the smoothest in the industry and the timing/turbo features work very well. Looking forward to strapping it in the buggy and testing it out.

You do let me know after you have your chance to run it...talk to 'Nochanceski" or Fraizer as well as Walt G about the 323STOCK software...they have been running the software for almost 2 months now and should give you a good setup.

Can someone tell me the the difference
EX
The Pro
and Pro Stock
Running off road,

GT2.1 EX...prefer for 12th scale or 10th scale using 1S lipo...or, using 2S and very slow motor like 21.5 17.5 with no timing that does not require alot of cooling on the ESC cause it has no fan.

GT2 PRO...good for anything especially MOD with no boost.

GT2.1 ProStock/GT2 LPF.......good for stock racing and semi-MOD racing with BOOST. Motor limit is 5.5.

Heard good things about these ESCs for the price and ordered a SC Master ESC . Received it yesterday, and nothing, no lights no power, no fan, no beeps. This is installed in my SC10 that I have been running without issue, just wanted a ESC with timing. any Ideas to try before sending it back and going back to the expensive ESCs.

Rob