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cweb 10-26-2014 10:49 AM

Has anyone tried a 12.8 rotor in the 17.5? I run on a high bite carpet off-road track and was thinking of trying it. I run a non-boosted set up currently.

Jim Hustins 10-26-2014 11:18 AM


Originally Posted by cweb (Post 13617980)
Has anyone tried a 12.8 rotor in the 17.5? I run on a high bite carpet off-road track and was thinking of trying it. I run a non-boosted set up currently.

Yes. I have run the 12.8 rotor. It will not be legal for a stock 17.5 class. But if you can run it, turn the endbell timing 5 degrees past the last mark. This will really wake it up.

ThePanda 10-26-2014 12:12 PM

what is up with the first post?

Cain 10-26-2014 12:23 PM


Originally Posted by mini-dub (Post 8247544)
Viper RC - a new line of terrible chinese equipment with even worse customer service.

Your time literally is not worth this garbage, buy something reputable and enjoy your time at the track and not getting smoked by every other system on the market!

I take it he isn't happy with the ones he has :tire:

I'd be curious to know what he isn't happy with exactly.

Jim Hustins 10-26-2014 12:45 PM


Originally Posted by ThePanda (Post 13618111)
what is up with the first post?

Former disgruntled employee. Nick needs to ask a Mod to have full control of this thread. The 1st poster has the ability to modify posts.

cweb 10-26-2014 04:39 PM


Originally Posted by Jim Hustins (Post 13618039)
Yes. I have run the 12.8 rotor. It will not be legal for a stock 17.5 class. But if you can run it, turn the endbell timing 5 degrees past the last mark. This will really wake it up.

Thanks Jim, How would you gear that for a b5rm? I'm running a 69 spur and i'ts doing pretty good, just looking for a little more to keep the guys running 13.5 off me a little longer.

nikos2002 10-26-2014 06:13 PM

cweb - depending on your track size I have seen 30-34 with a 69 spur. I will also note that you can't compare a 13.5 to a 17.5. Its like a 4 cylinder racing a 6 cylinder - the bigger motor will always have an advantage if used properly.

Also note as Jim stated that 12.8 rotors are not considered ROAR legal, if your track follows those rules or even checks.

Cain and Panda - yes Jim mentioned to me that it appears he edited the first post again, its been like that since 2012 in one form or another. I have asked the mods to delete it by they said the person can post what he wants. I would say more... but lets leave it at that. I rather look at all the info in the thread make sure questions are answered.

Cain 10-26-2014 08:35 PM

okay no prob. Maybe a new thread is in order lol

cweb 10-27-2014 10:40 AM


Originally Posted by nikos2002 (Post 13618765)
cweb - depending on your track size I have seen 30-34 with a 69 spur. I will also note that you can't compare a 13.5 to a 17.5. Its like a 4 cylinder racing a 6 cylinder - the bigger motor will always have an advantage if used properly.

Also note as Jim stated that 12.8 rotors are not considered ROAR legal, if your track follows those rules or even checks.

Thanks nikos. I'm running 31-69 now with no boost and very low timing, like 16 deg. I still have a lot of room with the motor & esc to tune with, just looking for an option if needed. I understand about the 13.5's, and my track does allow boost on the 17.5 but not on the 13.5 so I am going to work on a boosted setup. just looking to try and level the playing field as much as I can, that and just put in clean laps.

nikos2002 10-27-2014 10:54 AM

Boosting a 17.5 can be tricky, start with low settings and work up if you need to. 17.5 motors run hot as it is, adding any boost or timing will increase those temperatures - which is why it gets tricky. If you do add any, start low, and test effects. also think that the more you add electronically, you may also need to change gear ratio (lower pinion) depending on what you add. If you feel you can't get the speed you need and you are at 20* for acceleration boost and or top end timing on the speedo, it start to show the blinky 13.5 option would be better.

Grizzbob 10-27-2014 08:29 PM


Originally Posted by Cain (Post 13619054)
okay no prob. Maybe a new thread is in order lol

Nah, I think I got it cleaned up(though the thread title is now noticably shorter)....:cool:

Cain 10-27-2014 08:36 PM

if you incorrectly wire an esc to a motor (connect A to C, etc) what would you see happen (motor doesn't run, quickly gets hot, etc)

Trying to help someone diagnose something from a distance.

STLNLST 10-27-2014 10:08 PM

Anyone looking to buy any viper items soon? I won a $35 gift certificate that I will never use. It's yours. I don't want anything for it. You do have to spend $100 for it to be activated though. If it's wanted pm me and it's yours

STLNLST 10-28-2014 05:56 AM

Gift certificate gone.

nikos2002 10-28-2014 09:54 AM


Originally Posted by Cain (Post 13621675)
if you incorrectly wire an esc to a motor (connect A to C, etc) what would you see happen (motor doesn't run, quickly gets hot, etc)

Trying to help someone diagnose something from a distance.

Sensored - it might make a click sound, stall, not turn, yes could get hot quickly. Basically its creating short in the system.

Sensorless - if, A and C were exchanged, it would run backward. If A and B or B and C exchanged, it make not run, or run at a stutter. Could get hot depending on design.


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