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xray 11-26-2003 10:15 AM

Quantum 2 is exactly the same as Dominator Evolution!
The plus point of these speedo is in reactive drive frequency!

The speedo will know where is your car on the track! When accelerating the frequency will automatically lowered, so you have more punch! on the straight line the freq will automatically higher, so you have the top speed and very efficient!

Let's try it!:nod:

rocketron 11-26-2003 12:35 PM

the GM esc you tried was it the 12SX or the 12V series? very interested in the new SX version



Originally posted by xray
Yes I did! It is very smooth but powerfull, very difficult to program though! For advance setting you need to have GM Commander!
I still like my Keyence better!
Gm is comparable to Nosram Dominator Evolution! take a look!
:cool:


MattW 11-26-2003 03:02 PM

I have an Sx12W. Very happy with it so far. Doesn't seem like it has quite the same mid range feel of my Keyence, but still a very good speedo. I think it is as highly programmable, but not so easily.

duckman 11-26-2003 11:47 PM

Hi,
I have a keyence v zero extreme, what guage wires are you guys using that is safe and isn't the stock wires from keyence?

any help is greatly appreciated

duckman

Korey Harbke 11-27-2003 12:29 AM

Anyone have a good 1/12 setup for the keyence? I'm looking for stock and mod if you have them. Thanks.

-Sushi Boy

xray 11-27-2003 05:57 AM

Rocketron, I am using SX12W!

che 11-27-2003 07:07 AM


Originally posted by duckman
Hi,
I have a keyence v zero extreme, what guage wires are you guys using that is safe and isn't the stock wires from keyence?

any help is greatly appreciated

duckman

I am using 14 guage General Silicone ultimate flex wire in my 12th scale with no problems at all.

STLNLST 11-27-2003 08:24 AM


Originally posted by Pyramid
Yes, KO needs another hardware to do the programming, the best is through PC. In turn, programming is much easier.

Yes, freg is limited but already cover all needed low and high freg as you can imagine. In keyence, freg is adjustable but on a flat/fixed freq along with throtle trigger, not stepped/user choice at any throtle trigger as with KO VIS2000.

Both are great and very advance ESCs.

I'll agree with there, but once you factor in their pitwizard unit and a lap top (for trackside adjusting) look at the price you're at.

Dennis Tom 12-10-2003 05:11 PM

Sushi Boy--

I just spoke to Adrian over at Schumacher (they are the distributor for Keyence here in the States).

He gave me the following recommendations for 1/12th mod:

Neutral width (%) 4
Min drive power (%) 0
Min braking power (%) 0
Neutral brake (%) 0
Compression retarder off
Drive Frequency (KHz) 3.5 (no less than 2, no greater than 5)
Braking Frequency (KHz) 4.0
Power limit (%) 100
Voltage of battery... 4.6 (this feature is just for feedback,
doesn't affect performance).

Neutral width is a personal preference. It determines when power is sent to the car from the neutral point of your throttle. Some people like it to come on with the slightest touch of the throttle (hence a lower #), or some like a little more "time" with the throttle before power is sent (hence a higher #).

By setting the min drive and braking power to 0%, you are making the control full linear.

The drive frequency is another personal preference and the 3.5 is just a starting point. Basically, if you want the car to feel punchier, reduce the drive frequency, and visa versa if you want it to be smoother. However, you want to try to stay within that 2 to 5 range.

Also, if you start reducing your drive frequency to gain more punch, be sure to check the motor comm and brushes. If they start to look burnt or heavily discolored, you may be getting too low on the frequency (providing that your gearing is correct).

Brake frequency is sort of like drive frequency. The higher the number, the smoother the braking will feel, and visa versa the lower the number. I would tend to stay on the higher side for this as you don't want the braking action to be "grabby" or abrupt.

I didn't ask him about 1/12 stock settings (because I don't run it), but you can contact him at ShumacherUSA (813) 889-9691 or PM him here on rctech (I think his username is AdrianM).

He was very nice and extremely helpful. So, I wouldn't hesitate to contact him with any and all questions.

Hope this helps,
DT

AlanLim 12-10-2003 10:17 PM

Dennis Tom: do you have a Keyence setup for Touring 19T on Carpet?

Korey Harbke 12-10-2003 10:37 PM


Originally posted by Dennis Tom
Sushi Boy--

I just spoke to Adrian over at Schumacher (they are the distributor for Keyence here in the States).

He gave me the following recommendations for 1/12th mod:

Neutral width (%) 4
Min drive power (%) 0
Min braking power (%) 0
Neutral brake (%) 0
Compression retarder off
Drive Frequency (KHz) 3.5 (no less than 2, no greater than 5)
Braking Frequency (KHz) 4.0
Power limit (%) 100
Voltage of battery... 4.6 (this feature is just for feedback,
doesn't affect performance).

Neutral width is a personal preference. It determines when power is sent to the car from the neutral point of your throttle. Some people like it to come on with the slightest touch of the throttle (hence a lower #), or some like a little more "time" with the throttle before power is sent (hence a higher #).

By setting the min drive and braking power to 0%, you are making the control full linear.

The drive frequency is another personal preference and the 3.5 is just a starting point. Basically, if you want the car to feel punchier, reduce the drive frequency, and visa versa if you want it to be smoother. However, you want to try to stay within that 2 to 5 range.

Also, if you start reducing your drive frequency to gain more punch, be sure to check the motor comm and brushes. If they start to look burnt or heavily discolored, you may be getting too low on the frequency (providing that your gearing is correct).

Brake frequency is sort of like drive frequency. The higher the number, the smoother the braking will feel, and visa versa the lower the number. I would tend to stay on the higher side for this as you don't want the braking action to be "grabby" or abrupt.

I didn't ask him about 1/12 stock settings (because I don't run it), but you can contact him at ShumacherUSA (813) 889-9691 or PM him here on rctech (I think his username is AdrianM).

He was very nice and extremely helpful. So, I wouldn't hesitate to contact him with any and all questions.

Hope this helps,
DT

Thank you very much. I'll talk to Andrew Cartwright (his mom owns the local carpet track). He is one of the top Shuie drivers and is a very reliable source. I will also contact Adrian. Thanks again for the info Dennis. I will post my findings about 1/12 stock for those of you that are curious.

-Sushi Boy

Dennis Tom 12-11-2003 10:38 AM

Alan,

Sorry, I just got my Keyence and it's going into my 1/12th scale so I didn't ask for settings with a TC.

As I said to Sushi Boy, just give them a call or PM them. Adrian handled all my questions in a very patient, professional manner. I'm sure he will do the same when you contact him.

Lastly, according to Adrian, do NOT run any diodes on your motor. The circuitry is different than Novak, LRP etc., so it doesn't require them. In fact, if you run the diodes, you may actually end up damaging your speedo.

DT

scnsaracer 12-11-2003 02:02 PM

Im using one in 1/12 mod and it is killer. As far as the Keyence not being used by many team drivers...I'm guessing its b/c Keyence is a Jap. company which has no intrest/need to pay people to use their stuff here in the states.

coastaltony 12-20-2003 11:53 AM

Zero Extreme is a great ESC

che 12-20-2003 04:06 PM

I have a Zero Xtreme f/s or f/t, if anybody is interested PM me


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