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BOLISARIO 11-03-2010 01:31 PM

Just got my new M11x. Why does the manual state that the 92744 rx is only rated at 6.0v? On the Hobby People website, they rate it at 7.4v? I thought the 92744 is Lipo ready?

C Verano 11-03-2010 04:01 PM


Originally Posted by BOLISARIO (Post 8161360)
Just got my new M11x. Why does the manual state that the 92744 rx is only rated at 6.0v? On the Hobby People website, they rate it at 7.4v? I thought the 92744 is Lipo ready?

The receiver will accept a lipo, just make sure to use high voltage servos.

hoda 11-04-2010 10:00 AM

Is the new 4pks faster than the m11x with a 451R receiver?
 
Just curious, does anyone know if the new 4pks from Futaba is technically faster than the m11x with the 451R receiver?

bboard 11-04-2010 12:20 PM


Originally Posted by hoda (Post 8165430)
Just curious, does anyone know if the new 4pks from Futaba is technically faster than the m11x with the 451R receiver?

Would you be able to tell a difference if it was?

hoda 11-04-2010 01:40 PM


Originally Posted by bboard (Post 8165895)
Would you be able to tell a difference if it was?

probably not...but that's not the point!
just trying to find out the technical difference, our interstate highway has a speed limit of 65mph, do that mean auto manufacture shouldn't produce cars that will go beyond that speed?

one-eight 11-04-2010 01:55 PM


Originally Posted by bboard (Post 8165895)
Would you be able to tell a difference if it was?


Originally Posted by hoda (Post 8166182)
probably not...but that's not the point!
just trying to find out the technical difference, our interstate highway has a speed limit of 65mph, do that mean auto manufacture shouldn't produce cars that will go beyond that speed?

But you can probably tell if you are going well over 65 or not right?:p

Its not just the latency, its the consistency of the latency. Thats why the version one 2.4 systems werent used by a lot of pros. The varying latency. You didnt feel 'connected'

I dont think you can wrong between M11x, DX3R and KO. I would never again do Futaba after them turning a deaf ear to their over heating problems and a customer service policy that rivals Pop Copy

bpalmer 11-04-2010 02:12 PM


Originally Posted by hoda (Post 8166182)
probably not...but that's not the point!
just trying to find out the technical difference, our interstate highway has a speed limit of 65mph, do that mean auto manufacture shouldn't produce cars that will go beyond that speed?

a car travelling at 90 mph is certainly noticable difference than a car going 65 mph.but as a radio wave travels at the speed of light i don't think anyone would really notice the difference between 650 million miles per hour and 690 miliion miles per hour. (speed of light in open space,slowed some in atmospheric conditions)
doesn't really mean anything....just sayin

hoda 11-04-2010 02:26 PM


Originally Posted by bpalmer (Post 8166298)
a car travelling at 90 mph is certainly noticable difference than a car going 65 mph.but as a radio wave travels at the speed of light i don't think anyone would really notice the difference between 650 million miles per hour and 690 miliion miles per hour. (speed of light in open space,slowed some in atmospheric conditions)
doesn't really mean anything....just sayin

well, people swear by the difference they feel between a dx3s vs dx3r which to your point both uses radio wave. Simply, my point is not to question if one can feel the difference but if there is technical difference. Nothing more and nothing less, after all, OEMs depend on these bragging right to sell their products.

hoda 11-04-2010 02:29 PM


Originally Posted by one-eight (Post 8166242)
But you can probably tell if you are going well over 65 or not right?:p

Its not just the latency, its the consistency of the latency. Thats why the version one 2.4 systems werent used by a lot of pros. The varying latency. You didnt feel 'connected'

I dont think you can wrong between M11x, DX3R and KO. I would never again do Futaba after them turning a deaf ear to their over heating problems and a customer service policy that rivals Pop Copy

your point makes total sense...and I've already made the decision when I shoved up $4 bones to switch from a EX1-UR to a m11x...:nod:

one-eight 11-04-2010 02:34 PM


Originally Posted by hoda (Post 8166357)
OEMs depend on these bragging right to sell their

Thats why its tough, everybody just relies on advertisements for latency claims. They are all on the 2nd version 2.4. Until a version 3 comes out, all the top brands are probably close to the same. You'll love your M11x, I have one. I wanted to go with the KO, but it didnt have a feature I wanted.

Timox 11-04-2010 06:10 PM


Originally Posted by one-eight (Post 8166242)
But you can probably tell if you are going well over 65 or not right?:p

Its not just the latency, its the consistency of the latency. Thats why the version one 2.4 systems werent used by a lot of pros. The varying latency. You didnt feel 'connected'

I dont think you can wrong between M11x, DX3R and KO. I would never again do Futaba after them turning a deaf ear to their over heating problems and a customer service policy that rivals Pop Copy


+1.

The radio manufactures will happily advertise the lowest latency times there new radio is THEORETICALLY capable of for 1 nano second of the time its in use but thats not to say its that fast ALL the time. It varies.

So if one brand is rated at say 1ms and another is rated at 2ms latency the 2ms one could actually be faster because the 1ms one is fluctuating up to 10ms or 20ms where as the other radio is more stable at around 2ms to 5ms...

So its not who has the fastest but which is the more stable and consistent at there rated speed that counts.

Without putting them all on a test bench its impossible to say.....

one-eight 11-04-2010 08:03 PM

Exactly^ Look at this chart on the Airtronics site. It almost scared me away from ditching my FM and going 2.4 Im not saying pay attention to theirs compared to other brands, because frankly I wouldnt beleive an advertisement(the bar graph is probably reversed on the Futaba site:p), but look at the varying latency! But, F it, Drake finally switched to 2.4 so it must be alright:D
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e1...751568_1_1.jpg

MindThoughts 11-04-2010 08:49 PM

Spektrum DSM 1 (DX3S) Sport Radio vs Spektrum DSM 2 (DX3R) Race Radio.
 
Interesting that they use the DX3S(Sport) which is 1/2 the speed of the DX3R(Race) Radio. Adam Drake uses the DX3R. I've often read that DSM 2 Which is what the DX3R is capable of with the receiver which ships with the radio- is twice as fast as the older DSM 1 system. Which according to this chart in the previous post- puts the DX3R radio right up there with the other two high end radios this chart shows. But why would Airtronics make a chart which advertises two race radios with the Sport version of the Spektrum radio. According to this chart- the M11x is still faster(a little) than the race version DX3R radio. It's very misleading to compare two race radios- to a Sektrum sport radio. If Spektrum did not offer a race radio- then I could see reason for using the sport Radio in this chart- but this is not the case.

one-eight 11-04-2010 09:02 PM

ah who knows. like i said, they are all 2nd generation 2.4 systems. Pick one that has the features you want or feels the best(Ko for this one hands down-EVERYTHING is adjustable)

Jon Moore 11-09-2010 01:47 PM

Hey all, this question was kinda answered, but I wanted to ask myself... :)

Do you guys run a regulator on your battery? I'm using a 7.4v LiPo for my receiver... do I need a 6v regulator in order to use it?

Thanks in advance;

EDIT: Found the following on Airtronics website....

Specifications:

Model: 92744
Frequency: 2.4GHz FHSS-3
Input Voltage (Nominal): 4.8v - 7.4v (4 and 5 cell Ni-MH and Ni-Cd packs to 2-cell Li-PO)
Weight: .3oz (8.5g)
Dimensions: 1.43 x .94 x .59 in (36.5 x 24 x15 mm)
Fail Safe Limit: 3.8v Default - 3.5v to 5.0v adjustable


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