ToolkitRC M8D Charger
#211
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Joined: Jan 2025
Posts: 16
I have now also WhatsApp contact with Toolkitrc..., but somehow they don't seem to really know what the problem could be. They have lots of tips, but I've already tried them all. Otherwise I'm really happy with the M8D, I also did a "comparison" with my Junsi 406, fully charged two 2S LiPos from storage, with the same charging power, apart from 2 minutes both chargers were equally fast and well balanced. Since my Junsi was calibrated by a specialist, I was also able to determine that the M8D was always showing 0.02V per cell less and less, I fixed this by adjusting the M8D.
Then the same thing again, i.e. charged the LiPos, see, the voltages are exactly the same from the Junis 406 to the Toolkitrc M8D. So my Junsi will stay at home in the hobby cellar in the future and the M8D will accompany me to the races....
Then the same thing again, i.e. charged the LiPos, see, the voltages are exactly the same from the Junis 406 to the Toolkitrc M8D. So my Junsi will stay at home in the hobby cellar in the future and the M8D will accompany me to the races....
#212
I have now also WhatsApp contact with Toolkitrc..., but somehow they don't seem to really know what the problem could be. They have lots of tips, but I've already tried them all. Otherwise I'm really happy with the M8D, I also did a "comparison" with my Junsi 406, fully charged two 2S LiPos from storage, with the same charging power, apart from 2 minutes both chargers were equally fast and well balanced. Since my Junsi was calibrated by a specialist, I was also able to determine that the M8D was always showing 0.02V per cell less and less, I fixed this by adjusting the M8D.
Then the same thing again, i.e. charged the LiPos, see, the voltages are exactly the same from the Junis 406 to the Toolkitrc M8D. So my Junsi will stay at home in the hobby cellar in the future and the M8D will accompany me to the races....
Then the same thing again, i.e. charged the LiPos, see, the voltages are exactly the same from the Junis 406 to the Toolkitrc M8D. So my Junsi will stay at home in the hobby cellar in the future and the M8D will accompany me to the races....
#213
#214
For the USB C issue... USB C requires something called power delivery "pd" to negotiate the voltage and current to be supplied. My best guess is the resistors are not there in the charger to "fool" the pd into supplying the 5V. When using a USB C to USB A adapter, the USB A part has a resistor (around 56kohms) on the current line to trick the device giving power to it to give power, or if using a dumb power supply to trick your pd enabled device into charging on that dumb device. So... If you are using a USB C to USB C, just power the charger off your power supply and you can access the folder. If you are using USB C to A it should work, so long as the adapter has the resistor in it. That said, I would not power it externally while connecting to USB A. I don't have confidence that they built in protection for that use.
Inline discharging. I have the .6 firmware, the inline discharging did nothing extra, I was still only able to get 40W discharging. However, during my testing I removed the resistor bank while it was still discharging. I pressed a button on the charger and thought I stopped the discharge cycle but it didn't. And when I removed the resistor the charger kept trying to discharge through the "infinite resistance" so when I plugged it back it it shot up to 30A, and of course the PID controller brought it back down again. But, the charger is capable, they just have to design the firmware right.
Inline discharging. I have the .6 firmware, the inline discharging did nothing extra, I was still only able to get 40W discharging. However, during my testing I removed the resistor bank while it was still discharging. I pressed a button on the charger and thought I stopped the discharge cycle but it didn't. And when I removed the resistor the charger kept trying to discharge through the "infinite resistance" so when I plugged it back it it shot up to 30A, and of course the PID controller brought it back down again. But, the charger is capable, they just have to design the firmware right.
#215
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Joined: Jan 2025
Posts: 16
You can calibrate the M8D, i.e. the individual voltage for the cells. There are also numerous YouTube videos on how to calibrate Toolkitrc chargers. It's easy to watch them, just enter "Toolkitrc calibration" on YouTube....
#216
For the USB C issue... USB C requires something called power delivery "pd" to negotiate the voltage and current to be supplied. My best guess is the resistors are not there in the charger to "fool" the pd into supplying the 5V. When using a USB C to USB A adapter, the USB A part has a resistor (around 56kohms) on the current line to trick the device giving power to it to give power, or if using a dumb power supply to trick your pd enabled device into charging on that dumb device. So... If you are using a USB C to USB C, just power the charger off your power supply and you can access the folder. If you are using USB C to A it should work, so long as the adapter has the resistor in it. That said, I would not power it externally while connecting to USB A. I don't have confidence that they built in protection for that use.
#217
Figured out the ghost touch issue, pull 4 screws under the rubber pads , carefully pull off the top plate , unlock the ribbon connector and carefully remove it remembering orientation, spray it all down with electronics cleaner, let it dry , carefully reseat the ribbon and lock it down then reassemble .
#218
Tech Rookie
Joined: Jan 2025
Posts: 16
So..., me again ;-)
So, yesterday I decided to send the M8D back to the dealer because I was annoyed that it wasn't recognized by the computer. At the same time I ordered a new M8D from Robitronic, it was €35 more expensive than from the other online dealer, but that didn't matter. Anyway, the new M8D came in the mail today, tried it straight away, the computer recognized it immediately and without any problems.
Now I'm happy with the charger, if it works as reliably over the next few years as my Junsi 406, it'll be perfect
So, yesterday I decided to send the M8D back to the dealer because I was annoyed that it wasn't recognized by the computer. At the same time I ordered a new M8D from Robitronic, it was €35 more expensive than from the other online dealer, but that didn't matter. Anyway, the new M8D came in the mail today, tried it straight away, the computer recognized it immediately and without any problems.
Now I'm happy with the charger, if it works as reliably over the next few years as my Junsi 406, it'll be perfect
#219
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 2,654
From: Warsaw Indiana
i also can't get either of my PC's to read my charger to update it. i tried usb c to A adapter with no luck at all. on either of my computers. love the charger my first one was DOA but toolkit sent me a Replacement. and used it today at the track. I also have a Icharger Dx6 not sure what one i like the most yet.
#220
i also can't get either of my PC's to read my charger to update it. i tried usb c to A adapter with no luck at all. on either of my computers. love the charger my first one was DOA but toolkit sent me a Replacement. and used it today at the track. I also have a Icharger Dx6 not sure what one i like the most yet.
#221
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 2,654
From: Warsaw Indiana
#222
Tried the inline resistor bank discharge function over the weekend and it didnt seem to be working. Borrowed my friends resistor bank for his x6 just to see if anything happens. It has a total resistance of 0.2ohms which is a lot lower than what Toolkitrc recommends, but I even setting the discharge current to 30A, the charger said was only doing about 2.5A discharge, way lower than the normal 5amps. The resistor bank was ice cold as well. I must be doing something wrong.
#223
Tech Rookie
Joined: Jan 2025
Posts: 16
Interesting. You don't have a comparison to a Junsi 406 or something like that, do you? I have now charged about 10 batteries in comparison to my Junsi 406, always identical output voltage of the LiPos, sometimes M8D was faster, sometimes the Junsi 406. Difference was 2-3 minutes, depending on how much the cells had to be balanced
#224
Tech Initiate
Joined: Sep 2024
Posts: 27
Hi guys, has anyone updated their charger to version 3.07 following the new suggestions given by Toolkit? (powering with a 2s or higher / 12v power supply)
1- Press and hold the charger button (back button?) and connect the USB cable to the computer
2- Connect a 2s or higher battery (or 12v power supply) to the xt90 power port
3- download the update package from the toolkit site and extract the file to the computer
4- copy and paste the app.upga file inside the charger
1- Press and hold the charger button (back button?) and connect the USB cable to the computer
2- Connect a 2s or higher battery (or 12v power supply) to the xt90 power port
3- download the update package from the toolkit site and extract the file to the computer
4- copy and paste the app.upga file inside the charger
#225
Hi guys, has anyone updated their charger to version 3.07 following the new suggestions given by Toolkit? (powering with a 2s or higher / 12v power supply)
1- Press and hold the charger button (back button?) and connect the USB cable to the computer
2- Connect a 2s or higher battery (or 12v power supply) to the xt90 power port
3- download the update package from the toolkit site and extract the file to the computer
4- copy and paste the app.upga file inside the charger
1- Press and hold the charger button (back button?) and connect the USB cable to the computer
2- Connect a 2s or higher battery (or 12v power supply) to the xt90 power port
3- download the update package from the toolkit site and extract the file to the computer
4- copy and paste the app.upga file inside the charger



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