Motor Testing and Comparisons
#526
Yes, that's where it is stalling. So you all think it's fine? The only time I ever see that is on low torque motors. I dont believe this is a low torque motor.
#527
I have rotors in the 18’s that are are just as fast as anything else being run. The onroad track in Fresno is large, open, with sweepers. I’ve proved this in sedan and just recently in 12th scale at Lemo’s carpet track. Both vehicles had 21.5 motors. With the higher torque motors I can’t stress enough of low can timing and gearing up to get the top end back. I can almost assure you that the V6 you currently have is just as fast as every V6 I’ve played with when timed and geared correctly.
You are correct. i have seen the samw when using rotors that motor was designed for. I used a 1900 rotor, and it got hot. I had to time it way down. However, I still couldn't get it to go as fast as a low 1700 rotor without getting too hot. That was tested on a buddies on road car in a parking lot. Ot was a rotor for a mod motor.
#528
#529
It is just fine. This is the sensorless mode not knowing where the rotor postion is, less load can help it, but it isn't about the motor performance here. I've seen it a lot on 13.5 motors, you'll notice that there is no issue when running in the manual mode. The first time I saw it, I made the same conlcusion, bad motor, lol. But that isn't the case. After that I assumed it was an overcurrent issue during the run, but that isn't the case either... I ended up putting it on my scope and looking at the different runs and came to my conclusion that it is in sensorless mode the last part of the autorun. And like I said, that is where it measures the timing. May not make sense, but to me it makes perfect sense, lol.
#530
You are correct. i have seen the samw when using rotors that motor was designed for. I used a 1900 rotor, and it got hot. I had to time it way down. However, I still couldn't get it to go as fast as a low 1700 rotor without getting too hot. That was tested on a buddies on road car in a parking lot. Ot was a rotor for a mod motor.
#531
It is just fine. This is the sensorless mode not knowing where the rotor postion is, less load can help it, but it isn't about the motor performance here. I've seen it a lot on 13.5 motors, you'll notice that there is no issue when running in the manual mode. The first time I saw it, I made the same conlcusion, bad motor, lol. But that isn't the case. After that I assumed it was an overcurrent issue during the run, but that isn't the case either... I ended up putting it on my scope and looking at the different runs and came to my conclusion that it is in sensorless mode the last part of the autorun. And like I said, that is where it measures the timing. May not make sense, but to me it makes perfect sense, lol.
#533
I've noticed quite a few motors are hard to find in stock. My thought is, due to the new ROAR motor rules, the manufacturers are coming out with new motor designs. The current motors are still allowed for another year.
#534
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 2,388
From: Medina, Ohio
I am working a bit with one the new motors in pre production testing specificically 17.5. It is tough. The new build standards are making it hard to beat exsiting motors and that is why you don't see many new ones. My guess is that they are still in development.
#535
I believe the new motors will run much hotter, due to not having epoxy on the windings. I'm going to start running the full tests, on the new Team Powers V6S, over the next couple of days. I'm really anxious to see how well it performs over the V5S.
#536
I see on the Surpass hobby website that there's a V6-S motor: 540 V6-S - Shenzhen Surpass Tech Co., Ltd
I wonder what hs changed over the V6 and V6M motors.
I wonder what hs changed over the V6 and V6M motors.
#537
I wouldn't say "much" hotter, the epoxy doesn't make that much difference.
#538
This is true. I guess it depends on who judging it. I have heard guys tell me they were a lot hotter, but they were only the motor, they tested, was only about 8 degrees hotter than the epoxy motor.
#540



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