Exactly... Look at electric... Too many classes diluting the few guys that stay with the hobby....a good cheap class like electric f1 gets started then the money war starts...then guys move on....we need more pan 1/8 cars to choose from...look at 1/8 nitro buggy...tons of racers with tons of chassis to choose from....

cost on the electric chassis?

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Hi, thanks for your interest.

We are discussing the first lot size, so the final prices are not fixed yet. Look at the attached picture with the target prices.

The difference between electric and nitro version is an argument to offer each version sperately.
The electric version is absolute minimized! I think especially this version will be very interesting compared to the coming up suspensioned electric cars. Much cheaper and the speed is not that bad!

Many parts are standard or will come from established manufacturers.

not bad on price for roller

As someone who has never raced a On-Road nitro car, this is much more appealing to me than the 2wd pan cars and the GT8s. If there was enough interest to race them in my area I would get one.

..........And if you are a basher, and all you have to run on is a untreated parking lot the 4wd car is going to have more grip and may handle better than a 2wd.

I think it would be hard to find a smooth enough surface to bash on for a suspension-less car.

I will say that (in my opinion which doesn't mean much) I think the car should be 1/4 - 1/3 the cost a 1:8 scale car in order for it to take off.

You may have to look around but you can find parking lot surfaces that are smooth enough for a pan car to run on.

I see you are clearly having fun with this scratch build project.

For bashers you should not build a car with carbon fiber front end. also, with the 2WD classic class doing well it is in my opinion counter productive to further fracture the 1/8th category. Its already small enough.

As for the person interested in this class but not in 2WD pan: Im not sure why you would be against 2wd Pan racing if you have not tried it? How did you form a negative opinion of the class having not raced it?

Several US machinists have done similar projects proposing to launch a basic 1/8 platform at a great price. These projects have not materialized. In reality, the 2WD (and 4wd) pan cars made by RC manufacturers are very simple and the pricing structure is already apparent. They are in full production and the prices indicate actual, real world production costs. And I disagree that the existing 4wd pan cars are too similar to full 1/8th cars--they are very similar to your car.

To make a durable basher car I assure you that molded plastic parts are needed for durability, requiring tooling of 10-20K for injection molds. Plastic front end is the way to go. Carbon fiber front end for beginners will be a disaster, and the parts cost per CF front pieces will be $$$$

I would love to see more support for the class many folks have been working to grow for many years now, the current 2WD Classic Pan Class.

Given that TomAT is in Europe, where I too am originally from, there is more of a do it yourself attitude towards R/C. I remember when older racers would come to the track (AMSC Augsburg) and run their older chassis cars alongside newer versions - all of which had been heavily modified by their older owners. Look at what the guys did with the awesome 2wd Classic Contact car (which had made it to 4 differect versions C300-C320) and all the numerous scratch builds and resurrected vintage cars in France and Italy. The guys go to run their car, and most of all enjoy the camaraderie, heck most don't run in sanctioned events, but rather club racing. The days of seeing scratch built cars / modified cars in the US are too few - which is a shame if you ask me. In Japan you still have guys running 4wd Fantoms alongside old Deltas and RC500's. As such this car may not be something for the US Crowd, but some of the Euro Crowd are more receptive to this car, even if they were to run it as a 2wd pan car, given its suggested price. The P8F may me gone - but I still have mine and love it!

Also if Tom were to take this to a track the guys running 1:8 4wd suspension 2spd cars would not give him much hassle and more than likely would let him run alongside them no problem. Which I don't think would happen here in the US. I would purchase one - I think it would be a great (4wd I.C.) learner for my son.

I do also understand its not everyone’s cup of Tea, yet I commend him for it and wish him the best in his endeavour.

If you want 1/8 scale onroad racing to grow you are going to have to bring back the grass roots...... parking lot racing first. And parking lot racing would have room for 2wd pan & 4wd pan cars.

Nitro off-road racing is my true love but, I like to dabble in other racing too. On road is certainly a lot of fun and i have enjoyed the few events i have been too. The pan car class was appealing to me because I wanted something low maintenance I could go race with. I went to a Midwest Nitro Series race and watched them and was not impressed. To be honest though I am not a fan of 2 wheel drive cars on Off-Road either. I will race them here and there but prefer a 4wd car. After watching some video of this concept car on the track It looks like it would be more appealing to me. I am not trying to bring down what your guys are trying to do with the 2wd pan cars. I hope the class grows and I know people enjoy it. Heck might even pick one up for this summer.

I like the looks of this; if you can keep the price down

He said the nitro roller will be about 230 Euro which is abotu $260 US. That is very reasonable.

nice car Tom,i took 5 day to build my firt kit.