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FF25510 05-10-2007 11:35 PM

RB .12
 
Hello guys,

any comment about the RB Speedline Matrix RW (IFMAR/ROAR) compair to the new line engines?? :sweat: (Like NINJA/NOVA PLUS). Tks

PS : the engine just for fun not race. :rolleyes:

captian 05-13-2007 08:33 PM


Originally Posted by romuald31

nice :D

captian 05-13-2007 08:37 PM


Originally Posted by FF25510
Hello guys,

any comment about the RB Speedline Matrix RW (IFMAR/ROAR) compair to the new line engines?? :sweat: (Like NINJA/NOVA PLUS). Tks

PS : the engine just for fun not race. :rolleyes:

if its just for fun then you should have a good time

fatboy 05-19-2007 06:02 AM

Wonder does the RB .12 matrix RW goes well with nova 2036 tune pipe???

Scrad 05-19-2007 06:56 PM

What kind of temps do you guys run on your WS7's?

lurchsum69 05-20-2007 08:21 PM

Just Curious
 
Does RB v12 replace the RB x12 engine? I have a x12 which I use as a backup engine and forgot how fast this was untill this last weekend when I needed it for a race. I cooked my OS TZ5P and need another spare engine for my tool kit. Wouldn't mind finding another RB x12 if still available.

azcau 05-21-2007 02:45 AM

Can somebody tell me what the difference is between 1003s7c & 1005s7c ? Also are the parts interchangeable with the ws7 series or any others ? thanks

Nitro_Racer 05-22-2007 10:28 AM

I'm just getting back into nitro and was wondering for this motor with 30% Fuel will I need to shim the head from how it comes in the box ?

http://www.rcprocenter.com/store/pro...5d650571dbb99a

Thanks
Rick

Grinder 05-22-2007 11:29 AM


Originally Posted by FF25510
Hello guys,

any comment about the RB Speedline Matrix RW (IFMAR/ROAR) compair to the new line engines?? :sweat: (Like NINJA/NOVA PLUS). Tks

PS : the engine just for fun not race. :rolleyes:

The Matrix is Serious. Very fast engine, especially tuned. :sneaky:

FF25510 05-23-2007 08:06 AM

Tks guys,


Originally Posted by Grinder
The Matrix is Serious. Very fast engine, especially tuned. :sneaky:

Grinder,

you mean the stock Matrix RW. :confused: i'm looking for one.

azcau 08-12-2007 04:55 AM

Knock knock ..................anybody in here ?

Any body got experience with the ABC .21 Xenon ? (power , longevity , ease of tuning ec etc)

Roelof 08-12-2007 10:17 AM

Xenon-R.....

First impression is awesome, fast engine for a good price.

But later impressions.....
after 4 liter the crankpin was conical worn out by 0.03mm, a new conrod did not fit the crankpin, it was very tight. After drilling it to the right size and running in it did last only 1.5 liter and than it broke.....

azcau 08-13-2007 04:58 AM

Yeah I thought it was alright too , until she started dropping glow plugs like nothing else . Seemed to me to be either leaning out at high RPM's or shimmed wrong . I shimmed it up and checked thru everything in the motor and fuel system for leaks . It kept doing it so now instead of being a cheap motor it is an expensive paper weight !!

ziggy12345 08-19-2007 07:13 AM

Has anybody got the base needle settings for an RB XenonR? I seem to have lost the tune and want to start from scratch

Cheers

azcau 08-19-2007 02:46 PM

Main needle 6.5 turns out from closed .

Idle needle 5.5 turns out from closed .

ziggy12345 08-19-2007 03:07 PM

I checked on the RB website and the idle needle is 8 turns out!!

azcau 08-20-2007 01:47 AM

Xenon is :

Main 6.5
Idle 8.0

http://www.rbproducts.com/explose/RB...121-001001.pdf
Xenon R is :

Main 6.5
Idle 5.5

http://www.rbproducts.com/explose/RB...121-001000.pdf

Links go to the respective manuals .

Pattojnr 08-21-2007 02:58 AM

question on engine choice, i have been thinking of the speedline matrix rw and also the new R3. does enyone have recomendations as to which engine might be the better choice ? things to consider are fuel economy, power delivery and longetivity. thanksguys.

GBagRacing 08-21-2007 07:58 AM


Originally Posted by Pattojnr (Post 3600541)
question on engine choice, i have been thinking of the speedline matrix rw and also the new R3. does enyone have recomendations as to which engine might be the better choice ? things to consider are fuel economy, power delivery and longetivity. thanksguys.

Hey Patto. I'm currently running a Murnan Modified R3 with the novarossi 2630 pipe. I love it. I've only done two race days with it so far & I can feel it's still breaking in. I had more power this week than last and managed a 3rd place. It's still running fairly fat as I don't want to push it too hard early in it's life. Can't say about the matrix as I haven't run one yet. Also there is a separate thread on the R3 here as well.

ziggy12345 08-27-2007 09:59 AM


Originally Posted by azcau (Post 3596877)
Xenon is :

Main 6.5
Idle 8.0

http://www.rbproducts.com/explose/RB...121-001001.pdf
Xenon R is :

Main 6.5
Idle 5.5

http://www.rbproducts.com/explose/RB...121-001000.pdf

Links go to the respective manuals .

Which one is the better engine? I have the Xenon (not R)

samayoa 08-31-2007 07:41 AM

Does the RB WSII use/interchange with the WSIII?

azcau 08-31-2007 05:10 PM


Which one is the better engine? I have the Xenon (not R)
The only difference as far as I know is that the Xenon is ABC construction and the Xenon R is AAC . I have the Xenon because I feel that ABC construction is more durable , but mine is stuffed now so what would I know !!!

TommyBlazin 07-19-2011 07:31 AM

wow, this thread been in active for a long time, if there's a new one for the on-road motors please re-direct me there...

are the c9 c10 c11, the same, and more or less 35 plus 21's? thanks

Grinder 07-19-2011 10:29 AM


Originally Posted by TommyBlazin (Post 9409646)
wow, this thread been in active for a long time, if there's a new one for the on-road motors please re-direct me there...

are the c9 c10 c11, the same, and more or less 35 plus 21's? thanks

The c11 is the better of the rb's you listed. It has a better piston material, and more rigid block than the older models. The rb is different than the 35+21. It has more crank timing, lighter crank, different block. The Rb has more top end than the 35+21. The 35+21, and Rb parts are not interchangeable without modification.

bobbyblaze 07-19-2011 11:38 AM

i got the classico10 and it a descent engine ..it came with the 3003 pipe imo the 2018 bring the engine to life..i got this engine because im sort of a newbie to onroad nut ready to upgrade to the C11 its look strong:nod:

TommyBlazin 07-19-2011 06:06 PM


Originally Posted by Grinder (Post 9410461)
The c11 is the better of the rb's you listed. It has a better piston material, and more rigid block than the older models. The rb is different than the 35+21. It has more crank timing, lighter crank, different block. The Rb has more top end than the 35+21. The 35+21, and Rb parts are not interchangeable without modification.

so would you say the c9-c11 has more top end than a 35 plus 21 tuned? or just over the stock versions?....lastlly do nova pipes work w/rb motors, 2015 etc etc..thanks

also the c11 has a different p/s/r set than this?
http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...Connecting-Rod

Grinder 07-19-2011 06:20 PM


Originally Posted by TommyBlazin (Post 9412518)
so would you say the c9-c11 has more top end than a 35 plus 21 tuned? or just over the stock versions?....lastlly do nova pipes work w/rb motors, 2015 etc etc..thanks

also the c11 has a different p/s/r set than this?
http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...Connecting-Rod

Yes. They have more top end than the tuned 35+21. The novarossi 2015 pipe works great with the rb c11. I like the medium conical header with the 2015 on the c11.

TommyBlazin 07-19-2011 06:43 PM


Originally Posted by Grinder (Post 9412591)
Yes. They have more top end than the tuned 35+21. The novarossi 2015 pipe works great with the rb c11. I like the medium conical header with the 2015 on the c11.

but thats the same p/s/r/ as all three c9-c11..unless the c11 has a different part number? i just wanted to see the different piston on the c11...

Grinder 07-19-2011 08:05 PM


Originally Posted by TommyBlazin (Post 9412728)
but thats the same p/s/r/ as all three c9-c11..unless the c11 has a different part number? i just wanted to see the different piston on the c11...

The c10, and c11 have a lighter, more durable piston than the c9. I'm not sure of the part numbers without looking them up. The c10, c11 piston is definitely an improvement.

gashuffer 07-25-2011 07:05 AM

Will a Nova SCT crank drop into my TJ10?

Grinder 07-25-2011 01:39 PM


Originally Posted by gashuffer (Post 9435544)
Will a Nova SCT crank drop into my TJ10?

No. It is not compatible.

Roelof 07-26-2011 01:45 AM


Originally Posted by Grinder (Post 9437138)
No. It is not compatible.

Beside the timings, is it the crankpin making the difference or is the whole dimension of the crank different?

Grinder 07-26-2011 05:18 AM


Originally Posted by Roelof (Post 9439943)
Beside the timings, is it the crankpin making the difference or is the whole dimension of the crank different?

The Sct is 11.9mm, and the tj10 is 11.5mm. Also the Sct is long stroke, and the tj10 is short stroke. The crankpin on the Sct is further from center than the Tj10.

I have used the 11.5 long stroke crank from the +12-3ct in the tj10. It works, but makes too much displacement to be legal for racing. The larger diameter short stroke piston with the long stroke crank. It was quick, but guzzled fuel.

gashuffer 07-26-2011 05:26 AM


Originally Posted by Grinder (Post 9440360)
The Sct is 11.9mm, and the tj10 is 11.5mm. Also the Sct is long stroke, and the tj10 is short stroke. The crankpin on the Sct is further from center than the Tj10.

I have used the 11.5 long stroke crank from the +12-3ct in the tj10. It works, but makes too much displacement to be legal for racing. The larger diameter short stroke piston with the long stroke crank. It was quick, but guzzled fuel.

Thank you.
I have a Nova crank, I will post a pic of it later. Will you be able to identify it for me? It was given to me by someone at my track. He says it will fit. I just would like to know because when I buy another engine I would like to put it in the TJ for experiment sake.

Italboy 08-22-2011 02:41 AM

RB T11 RS
 
Dear all
What do you think about the RB T11RC?
Would you recommend this engine also for tight or small tracks?

I'm looking for an engine with very good bottom performance!
So now I'm thinking between Sirio Nemesis, Reds ZR12T, Nova Flash, Max XXL3 .12 or the RB T11RC...

Can someone give me a tip?

Kind regards

DJ_Shakespear 08-22-2011 04:34 AM

Have you thought about getting the IDM/Picco Torque? Plenty of bottom end for a tight track, but also capable of holding it's own on larger tracks from what goes on in the Picco/IDM threads.

Italboy 08-22-2011 05:19 AM


Originally Posted by DJ_Shakespear (Post 9556966)
Have you thought about getting the IDM/Picco Torque? Plenty of bottom end for a tight track, but also capable of holding it's own on larger tracks from what goes on in the Picco/IDM threads.

Hi Djshakespear

Thanks for your reply.
Yes I thought about. But the fact that everyone here in Switzerland is racing the Picco I prefered to race an other engine.

DJ_Shakespear 08-23-2011 03:24 AM


Originally Posted by Italboy (Post 9557085)
Hi Djshakespear

Thanks for your reply.
Yes I thought about. But the fact that everyone here in Switzerland is racing the Picco I prefered to race an other engine.

Just like me, I like to be the odd one out :D

Italboy 08-23-2011 06:50 AM


Originally Posted by DJ_Shakespear (Post 9561856)
Just like me, I like to be the odd one out :D

So you know what I mean :blush:

we have a RB and Nova dealer here in Switzerland, where I can get parts..
But I don't know if these engines will be the right one.
I think, I'll wait till the new REDS .12 engine will come out in mid september.
They will be Picco based, and so I think they will be torquey..

JumpJet 08-25-2011 02:40 AM

Just wondering what nitro % I should run in an X12T? cheers


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