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Old 07-02-2004, 09:42 PM   #1
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Time to retire my RS12 5-port. Anyone know the differences between the JP and the Mugen X12?

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Old 07-05-2004, 10:55 AM   #2
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What did Mugen USA say the difference's are???

http://www.mugenracing.com/

I would go there first... As they are the dist. of the both motors.. If it's not on the website, you can always call... No one know Mugen more then... Mugen...

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Old 07-05-2004, 05:00 PM   #3
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Time to retire my RS12 5-port. Anyone know the differences between the JP and the Mugen X12?

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I have seen a JP FX12 T03, probably the one with all the options(knowing how the driver of that car, he would run the best engine), it is unbeliverably fast! I would probably use the word Ballistic! and the engine is running cool, under 200F, top end of that beast is sick, insanely fast!

But everything has a price tag! just the matter if you can justify the cost vs performance!

Honest, in my opinion I wouldnt do it! (I have had some big ticket engines just to name a few, JP RX21WC R1, Novamax 21 and 12, RB and such but it is not easy to justify how much they are!

I believe the JP FX is like $469, that is even more then a 21 size engine! and now I am running Tawaness engines, STS, very good value more like 1/3 of the cost of a JP, but then the JP is not 3 times faster!

when it comes down to the bottomline, u just need to weight it!

again the JP FX is just sickly fast!

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i have heard that the mugen X.12 is based on the IDM motors
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i have heard that the mugen X.12 is based on the IDM motors
Don't know what is that based on.......but seen X12 in action, just a simple 3 port non turbo engine.........will run as fast (or even faster) then my RS12 T5 S1 turbo 5 port......

For 3 port engine non turbo, that is unbelievable fast...probably the fastest 3 port non turbo engine in the market (not comparing to MOD engine)

Everything has a price tag...X12 are around $285 each, not a cheap engine at all.
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Old 07-06-2004, 10:03 AM   #6
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I have seen a JP FX12 T03, probably the one with all the options(knowing how the driver of that car, he would run the best engine)
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damn !!! that is more than my annual budget for engines !!! time to find a second job or switch to golf.
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i have heard that the mugen X.12 is based on the IDM motors
I've heard from many people that the Mugen X12 is based on the novarossi NS12S3 engine. But the mugen is alot faster.
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I've heard from many people that the Mugen X12 is based on the novarossi NS12S3 engine. But the mugen is alot faster.
NS12S3 does not have a chance compare to X12........if comparing stock vs stock.
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I'm all grins, I couldn't find a stock X12, so I HAD to get the JP FX12...can't wait to get it on the car!
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I've been running with a NSR12S3, so I'm looking for a comparison also...it should be here tomorrow.
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Hi,

Think the Mugen engine is a lot like the Serpent NovaMega engine.
Those engines are fast and reliable. The Mugen engine has also won a lot of races.

I have seen both of the engines raced, but the JP is that much faster!
It has incredible power, and the top speed is by far the highest I have seen yet in a .12!

This is not only done by JP, a lot of other manufactureres are not building new engines every year.
The Mugen is still the same, as well as the NovaMega, and the R&B.
Engines like a NovaMax, or a IDM are hard to get so there isn't realy that much competition.

I think it's a plus having a carburator wich can be adjusted only on a few ways, like the JP has.

A lot of people have fast engines, and a bad setup of their engine.
This can be avoided by using the JP carb.

A large backdraft of the JP is it's durability.
They are not ass durable as other Nova Rossi based engines.
But wath the hack, most people buy a new engine every year.
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