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Old 10-07-2005 | 05:53 AM
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I have a x12 and I am looking for a better pipe then the RD logics Turbo 2. I think that I need more top end. Any one with some thoughts on a Novarossi based pipe??
U can try Max Power latest tuned pipe (6mm). It gives u more high end. I'm using it now with my LL5. Tips : Shorter body = high end power
Long body = torque
Good Luck bro.
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Old 10-07-2005 | 10:38 AM
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Whats the difference between the Rex and Top engines. I am looking to get a new .12 engine.
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Old 10-07-2005 | 11:25 AM
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Whats the difference between the Rex and Top engines. I am looking to get a new .12 engine.
Nothing. They are exactly the same
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Old 10-10-2005 | 08:59 AM
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I have a MT12 turbo button and was wondering if it would fit my X12 engine with the gray head???
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Old 10-10-2005 | 09:20 AM
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I think the head button off a Mugen MT12 (NovaRossi XN12 based engine) will fit into the sleeve of the rb X12 (NovaRossi RS12 based engine) due to the 2 engines having the same bore (13.80mm) but will not give the correct head clearance.
just try it and check the head clearence with a bit of solder down the plug hole.
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Old 10-10-2005 | 10:21 AM
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It is not the RB it is the Mugen X12. If there is a differance. The engine sheet that came with the engine shows the turbo button part #NOV28605 and the standard button #NOV28604. Anyway to find out if this is the same one as the MT12?? The sheet also shows a bore of 13.8mm.
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Old 10-10-2005 | 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by THE DOCTOR
It is not the RB it is the Mugen X12. If there is a differance. The engine sheet that came with the engine shows the turbo button part #NOV28605 and the standard button #NOV28604. Anyway to find out if this is the same one as the MT12?? The sheet also shows a bore of 13.8mm.
It will fit in the cylinder, and properly shimed will give you same compression ratio as all other Nova heads.
Problem with MT12 head button is that it is thinner than all other Nova based head buttons, and the cooling head will hit cylinder crankcase before proper sealing torque is applied to head button.

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Old 10-10-2005 | 10:52 AM
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Ah that X12, I should have twigged when you mentioned the grey head.
in that case your after an NS12 head button then.
all I know is the MT12 is a long rod engine so the combustion chamber lip doesnt sink as deep into the sleeve compared to the short rod NovaRossi engine like the RS12, NS12, X12, and so on. like I said b4 the bore is the same so it will fit in the sleeve but head clearance will be diff.

why cant you just measure and see if there is any difference? that will satisfy you for sure.
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Old 10-10-2005 | 11:16 AM
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[QUOTE=Hesky]........all I know is the MT12 is a long rod engine so the combustion chamber lip doesnt sink as deep into the sleeve compared to the short rod NovaRossi engine like the RS12, NS12, X12, and so on. like I said b4 the bore is the same so it will fit in the sleeve but head clearance will be diff......

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Because the MT12 is a long rod engine it's the sleeve that sits higher on the crankcase so the head button is thinner in able for the cooling head to sit properly. The head button will fit and and the clearance is the same as all Nova head buttons...compression will be the same...I've done it many times with different Nova based engines and also with STS engines...but you have to shave material off the bottom of the cooling head so the head button sets flush on it or the cooling head will hit the crankcase.

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Old 10-10-2005 | 11:30 AM
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Ah I see, I guess I was nearly informed correctly
I asked about this a while ago on another forum and got a few contradictory answers.
thanks for straightening things out afm
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Old 10-10-2005 | 02:40 PM
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For the guys running the LL3, what are your thoughts so far about this engine (good and bad)? How does ir compare to N12LS3, NSR, etc?

Also, what pipe and chassis are you running?
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Old 10-10-2005 | 03:44 PM
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Hello Guys,

I write because I dont know what to do and may be some one can help me. I have a Top TS12S engine, and have run aproximatly 1.5 gallons of 20% fuel trough it. Over this time I have used two glowplugs (Novarossi 6Tc) , and everything worked great, good reliability and performance, but the when I changed the glowplug to a new one, everything went crazy.

It runs perfectly for the first time but when I turn the engine off and let it cool and try to start it again it starts ok but us soon as I take the glowplug heater off the glowplug it shuts off, and after I try to start it a few times more 4 or 5 the glow plug gets damaged. This has happenened with 3 new glowplugs.

Someone in my track said the engine has too much compression, but then why did it worked fine with the previous plugs?

If anyone has any idea what could be wrong please let me know, Im getting a little frustraded...

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Old 10-10-2005 | 03:52 PM
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One correction

My engine is TS12S5 TKs

Originally Posted by morenoi79
Hello Guys,

I write because I dont know what to do and may be some one can help me. I have a Top TS12S engine, and have run aproximatly 1.5 gallons of 20% fuel trough it. Over this time I have used two glowplugs (Novarossi 6Tc) , and everything worked great, good reliability and performance, but the when I changed the glowplug to a new one, everything went crazy.

It runs perfectly for the first time but when I turn the engine off and let it cool and try to start it again it starts ok but us soon as I take the glowplug heater off the glowplug it shuts off, and after I try to start it a few times more 4 or 5 the glow plug gets damaged. This has happenened with 3 new glowplugs.

Someone in my track said the engine has too much compression, but then why did it worked fine with the previous plugs?

If anyone has any idea what could be wrong please let me know, Im getting a little frustraded...

Tks
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Old 10-10-2005 | 04:00 PM
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if you we're running a hot plug previously and it ran fine I cant imagen the compression is to hi. what sort of damage??
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Old 10-14-2005 | 10:47 AM
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nova's r a bit temperemantel....even the change of a plug sometimes require tuning back....start again with the basic and fine tune from there....if stiill cannot, check everything back...good luck...
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