Engine idle problems 2
#1
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So I don't know whether my old thread got deleted or glitched or what. If it's there and I just can't see it, go ahead and delete this.
I'm having problems adjusting my LSN and idle screw. I've gone through the tuning bible and can't figure it out.
Basically, either the engine idles too high the whole time, then stalls, or it idles too high, then when I turn the idle screw down, it stalls, or when I lean the LSN slightly, and hit the gas, the engine immediately dies.
What do I do?
I'm having problems adjusting my LSN and idle screw. I've gone through the tuning bible and can't figure it out.
Basically, either the engine idles too high the whole time, then stalls, or it idles too high, then when I turn the idle screw down, it stalls, or when I lean the LSN slightly, and hit the gas, the engine immediately dies.
What do I do?
#2
So I don't know whether my old thread got deleted or glitched or what. If it's there and I just can't see it, go ahead and delete this.
I'm having problems adjusting my LSN and idle screw. I've gone through the tuning bible and can't figure it out.
Basically, either the engine idles too high the whole time, then stalls, or it idles too high, then when I turn the idle screw down, it stalls, or when I lean the LSN slightly, and hit the gas, the engine immediately dies.
What do I do?
I'm having problems adjusting my LSN and idle screw. I've gone through the tuning bible and can't figure it out.
Basically, either the engine idles too high the whole time, then stalls, or it idles too high, then when I turn the idle screw down, it stalls, or when I lean the LSN slightly, and hit the gas, the engine immediately dies.
What do I do?
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#3
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I did set the idle gap to 1-2mm, and the car does idle, and when I gas it it does go. However, when I lean the LSN about a quarter turn, THEN it dies when I hit the gas.
The other issue is that it does not idle down at all. When I have it so that it does idle, it idles incredibly high, nearly half throttle. Even when the buggy is on the ground and the wheels aren't spinning, the engine revs are still super high.
Does that mean that it's still too rich?
The other issue is that it does not idle down at all. When I have it so that it does idle, it idles incredibly high, nearly half throttle. Even when the buggy is on the ground and the wheels aren't spinning, the engine revs are still super high.
Does that mean that it's still too rich?
#4
So I don't know whether my old thread got deleted or glitched or what. If it's there and I just can't see it, go ahead and delete this.
I'm having problems adjusting my LSN and idle screw. I've gone through the tuning bible and can't figure it out.
Basically, either the engine idles too high the whole time, then stalls, or it idles too high, then when I turn the idle screw down, it stalls, or when I lean the LSN slightly, and hit the gas, the engine immediately dies.
What do I do?
I'm having problems adjusting my LSN and idle screw. I've gone through the tuning bible and can't figure it out.
Basically, either the engine idles too high the whole time, then stalls, or it idles too high, then when I turn the idle screw down, it stalls, or when I lean the LSN slightly, and hit the gas, the engine immediately dies.
What do I do?
If the engine is broken in, don't set the idle gap larger than .7mm
#5
check the throttle trim, normally a small move of the servo is needed before the carburater will be moved. If there is no small moment between them the that is the cause.
Keep the ignitor on, if that does solve the stall then you will notice if the engine is to rich or to lean.
And another cause is the glowplug, a to cold or an old plug can give such problems.
Keep the ignitor on, if that does solve the stall then you will notice if the engine is to rich or to lean.
And another cause is the glowplug, a to cold or an old plug can give such problems.
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It's an SH .28 engine in a new Hurricane XTR. I broke in the engine, and I don't have any starting point as for ballpark tuning settings.
#7
This may or may not help.
http://www.rctech.net/forum/offroad-...run-right.html
http://home.comcast.net/~98gmarquee/...cDocs/SH28.pdf
http://www.rctech.net/forum/offroad-...run-right.html
http://home.comcast.net/~98gmarquee/...cDocs/SH28.pdf
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I did set the idle gap to 1-2mm, and the car does idle, and when I gas it it does go. However, when I lean the LSN about a quarter turn, THEN it dies when I hit the gas.
The other issue is that it does not idle down at all. When I have it so that it does idle, it idles incredibly high, nearly half throttle. Even when the buggy is on the ground and the wheels aren't spinning, the engine revs are still super high.
Does that mean that it's still too rich?
The other issue is that it does not idle down at all. When I have it so that it does idle, it idles incredibly high, nearly half throttle. Even when the buggy is on the ground and the wheels aren't spinning, the engine revs are still super high.
Does that mean that it's still too rich?
1. the clutch isn't engaging if the engine is reving and it's not going. this is also the reason for the stalls more than likely. if it has the standard kind of clutch the spring is probably broken. then the shoes get jammed in the housing causing it to stall out sometimes.
2. since it's reving that high on it's own, you have an air leak in the carb. check the base oring and make sure the carb is down all the way and the retainer nut is nice and tight.
any time a nitro engine starts stalling for no reason the first thing you should suspect is the clutch. I've even had a pin in the flywheel back out and touch the bell causing stalls.
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I think you have a few things going on.
1. the clutch isn't engaging if the engine is reving and it's not going. this is also the reason for the stalls more than likely. if it has the standard kind of clutch the spring is probably broken. then the shoes get jammed in the housing causing it to stall out sometimes.
2. since it's reving that high on it's own, you have an air leak in the carb. check the base oring and make sure the carb is down all the way and the retainer nut is nice and tight.
any time a nitro engine starts stalling for no reason the first thing you should suspect is the clutch. I've even had a pin in the flywheel back out and touch the bell causing stalls.
1. the clutch isn't engaging if the engine is reving and it's not going. this is also the reason for the stalls more than likely. if it has the standard kind of clutch the spring is probably broken. then the shoes get jammed in the housing causing it to stall out sometimes.
2. since it's reving that high on it's own, you have an air leak in the carb. check the base oring and make sure the carb is down all the way and the retainer nut is nice and tight.
any time a nitro engine starts stalling for no reason the first thing you should suspect is the clutch. I've even had a pin in the flywheel back out and touch the bell causing stalls.
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no but seriously, as much as we all would like things to just work out of the box most of the time they don't or require some proper setup and tuning.
there is even a sealant for carbs for just this very reason.
http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...uretor-Sealant
btw, don't listen to the one review of it that says it's the same as the autoparts store sealants.
not all sealants are the same. most of them you cannot use in contact with fuels.
#15
Have you tried tuning with the main (high speed) needle?? If your idle is fine, then once you hit the throttle, there's too much of a variance of air/fuel causing it to die....its really hard to tune a motor via forum, but I would try leaning the high speed needle 1-2 hours, and richening the low speed 2-3 hours...all this is with your idle gap @ 1mm...other than that, set everything back to factory settings and start over



