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Rcrenew 06-16-2011 10:02 AM


Originally Posted by twitch_1 (Post 9263930)
i get aked this one a lot and have them all walking away scratching there heads when they find out



lol. I know I love that:lol:

rider313 06-16-2011 06:48 PM

I strapped the argus in my new 8ight 2.0 buggy today and went to the park to get a base tune before I head to the race this weekend. All I can say is wow, this thing is way to powerful down low in a buggy, it balled my 8T round like nothing. In a buggy it's over kill. Think I am goin to have Rex take some bottom end out of it, so I can get the power to the ground. I will have to be limber on the throttle this weekend that's for sure. :lol:

twitch_1 06-16-2011 09:15 PM


Originally Posted by Herrsavage (Post 9263955)
Just read on another forum about a guy who was loving the 2035.. Do you really sacrifice so much power with that pipe?

Ok i run the 2035 on mine and love it and run time is good also i've tried the 2081, nova 9901,hong nor 2027 and find for my DRIVING style the 2035 really good as it smoothens out the power band for me and i find it more linear also but dosen't take any away from the mid and top end but bottom end isn't as punchy which i like...

outamoney 06-17-2011 10:31 PM

Two of us tried the SH 3033 pipe and header today. We were both using, and always liked, the 801. I will probably not run the 801 anymore. lol

The 3033 was smoother from bottom to top. I had never noticed, until running these two pipes back to back, but the 801 seems really punchy...but seems to be in and out of the power band. The 3033 did not feel punchy and I originally did not think it was making the same power.....but then I noticed I was consistently using less power to make the buggy do the same thing. So obviously, it makes more power, but just feels a lot smoother.

Both of us put the pipes on and did not touch our tunes. We both picked up between 42 and 46 seconds on the 3033. I am glad the Argus dealers decided to try this pipe. It would be a great combo (hint, hint).

twitch_1 06-19-2011 12:08 AM

Was just wondering what the efra number or if some one could post a link to one of these sh 3033 pipes as i haven't been able to find one as was thinking it could be a good pipe for my truggy if i don't like the 2035 and what size carby sleeve are people running in there truggy i've got a 7mm in my buggy and it's good but not sure if the truggy would be the same????

ArgusNZ 06-19-2011 12:36 AM

i am running the 7mm in truggy, i think it is the best for all round performance/run time

outamoney 06-19-2011 06:36 AM


Originally Posted by twitch_1 (Post 9274692)
Was just wondering what the efra number or if some one could post a link to one of these sh 3033 pipes as i haven't been able to find one as was thinking it could be a good pipe for my truggy if i don't like the 2035 and what size carby sleeve are people running in there truggy i've got a 7mm in my buggy and it's good but not sure if the truggy would be the same????

I am running the 7mm in buggy and think locally, everyone is running it in truggy as well. I do not think atozrc has the 3033 pipes on his web page yet...but you could contact Lance @ RcRenew. I am pretty sure he has some in stock now.

twitch_1 06-19-2011 08:48 AM


Originally Posted by outamoney (Post 9275349)
I am running the 7mm in buggy and think locally, everyone is running it in truggy as well. I do not think atozrc has the 3033 pipes on his web page yet...but you could contact Lance @ RcRenew. I am pretty sure he has some in stock now.

thanks buddy yer wasn't sure what to do with truggy as is in buggy with the 7mm this thing is a rocket ship and was just thinking in a truggy with the extra weight a 8mm but still not sure might have to start with the 7mm and see from there... As for the pipe just want to look at it first and plus i'm in Australia and would like to get it local first...

rider313 06-19-2011 07:08 PM

Well since we are on this subject. This weekend I switch from driving truggy to buggy. I decided to stick with my A52 for motor in buggy also. And this thing was way to much for buggy. I talked with Rex (22Racer) and he had some restrickers to try and tame the massive low end. I ended up putting a oval carb insert and a exaust reducer on it and with 2 green spring alm shoe, and 2 black spring composite shoe clutch. Even "detuned" this thing had more then Enough power around the track. Stock I was getting mid 8 min run time, with the restictors I got 10:39 to a tank on buggy. The power was much more linier and was still very fast. Kept up or pulled every motor out there.

Heres some pics
http://i788.photobucket.com/albums/y...3/24ac5592.jpg
http://i788.photobucket.com/albums/y...3/89645b00.jpg
http://i788.photobucket.com/albums/y...3/15132421.jpg
http://i788.photobucket.com/albums/y...3/5b613494.jpg

Thanks for all your help Rex, I have this motor right were I want it. :sneaky:

Guatott 06-20-2011 01:33 AM

Hello

Can someone recommend a method to make the breakin of the argus into a Hudy Bench. It's going to be my second breakin, previosly i try the cycle method but with not very good results (sure by my fault)

Thanks a lot.

lazyboy12300 06-20-2011 05:09 AM

I have run the Argus in my truggy and it was monster! From what I am reading, it sounds too much for a buggy? Is this the case?

Scott

jjenkins 06-20-2011 05:42 AM


Originally Posted by lazyboy12300 (Post 9279341)
I have run the Argus in my truggy and it was monster! From what I am reading, it sounds too much for a buggy? Is this the case?

Scott

I don't think it is too much for a buggy, personally. It does have a ton of power though. Some of our team drivers run one tooth higher on the buggy than they do with other engines. I run the same as I have on other engines. Pipes can make a difference as well.

We just had two team drivers, (think it is already been posted), test the F0801 vs the 3033. They both ran a complete tank with the F0801, then ran a complete tank with the 3033. Both drivers said the 3033 felt smoother on the bottom and mid range. Not less powerful, just easier to drive. They also timed each run and each gained around 40 seconds of run time.

On the dyno, the F0801 and 3033 made about the same power, but the 3033 had a Very linear powerband from idle to top rpm. Where as the f0801 had a few "spikes" along the way.

One thing for sure, on a buggy, throttle control is key. Any of the top engines on the market make more power that what you need. It is upto the driver to control the power with their throttle finger. It sure is nice to have all that power on tap when you need it.:D

jjenkins 06-20-2011 07:23 AM

Lance at www.rcrenew.com has some of the 3033's in stock.

After the demo's done by team drivers this past weekend. We at AtoZrc.net have sold out. Placing another order this week. ( I don't even have one for myself yet:cry:)

twitch_1 06-20-2011 07:53 AM


Originally Posted by jjenkins (Post 9279430)
I don't think it is too much for a buggy, personally. It does have a ton of power though. Some of our team drivers run one tooth higher on the buggy than they do with other engines. I run the same as I have on other engines. Pipes can make a difference as well.

We just had two team drivers, (think it is already been posted), test the F0801 vs the 3033. They both ran a complete tank with the F0801, then ran a complete tank with the 3033. Both drivers said the 3033 felt smoother on the bottom and mid range. Not less powerful, just easier to drive. They also timed each run and each gained around 40 seconds of run time.

On the dyno, the F0801 and 3033 made about the same power, but the 3033 had a Very linear powerband from idle to top rpm. Where as the f0801 had a few "spikes" along the way.

One thing for sure, on a buggy, throttle control is key. Any of the top engines on the market make more power that what you need. It is upto the driver to control the power with their throttle finger. It sure is nice to have all that power on tap when you need it.:D


I agree with that i've been running this motor in a buggy from day one and it screams but makes you concentrate more on throttle control and i have gotten better not as much of a throttle masher anymore

rider313 06-20-2011 10:12 AM


Originally Posted by jjenkins (Post 9279430)

One thing for sure, on a buggy, throttle control is key. Any of the top engines on the market make more power that what you need. It is upto the driver to control the power with their throttle finger. It sure is nice to have all that power on tap when you need it.:D

+1 Throttle controle is very important. I kind of lack there, so having it tunes down a lil I can lay down faster more consistent laps. I think most guys would be very happy with this motor in a buggy with just a heavy fly wheel. Its a great mill for sure.


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