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Socket 02-08-2016 09:14 AM


Originally Posted by Jerm13 (Post 14381984)
6.0 Nitromizer insert. Tried the Nova stock 6.0 insert but lost low end drivability and about a minute of run time with it. Didn't see a difference in top end. But that was when the motor only had about a gallon on it.... she has about 5-6 on it now. Still has great compression but will be due for repinch/ rebuild by June/July time frame.

Also been thinking of ditching the 2096 and using the 9883 with 21 header. Herd to many good things about that pipe.

That 9886 pipe does magical things - 2 chamber blah blah blah.

You'll also get told to run an 8mm insert...it'll get 5 minutes of runtime too, haha.

That said - I'd try at least a 6.5 or 7.0, and see what kind of mileage you can get.

I haven't tried it - but a buddy told me if I ever run a P5 based motor to buy and run this crank:

http://novarossidirect.com/15006_p_2167.html

Roelof 02-08-2016 10:14 AM


Originally Posted by Socket (Post 14381998)
but a buddy told me if I ever run a P5 based motor to buy and run this crank:

http://novarossidirect.com/15006_p_2167.html


N21-3T crankshaft?
If you want milage then go your way. But kep in mind you will loose lots of power.

Jerm13 02-08-2016 05:03 PM


Originally Posted by Socket (Post 14381998)
That 9886 pipe does magical things - 2 chamber blah blah blah.

You'll also get told to run an 8mm insert...it'll get 5 minutes of runtime too, haha.

That said - I'd try at least a 6.5 or 7.0, and see what kind of mileage you can get.

I haven't tried it - but a buddy told me if I ever run a P5 based motor to buy and run this crank:

http://novarossidirect.com/15006_p_2167.html


Originally Posted by Roelof (Post 14382080)
N21-3T crankshaft?
If you want milage then go your way. But kep in mind you will loose lots of power.

Not really wanting to get inside the motor.... That's why my original question was just about headers only... If I wanted to break the motor down, I would just get a new one and be done with it. Too much headaches and too many things to go wrong when frankenstiening mills. Im pretty sure engine manufacturers do their home work on their motors. Ill leave that to them and reap the benefits...:sneaky:

bash bros 02-08-2016 05:37 PM

I ran the 7mm insert and 2096/021 combo for a while in my truggy and it completely killed the top end. Ended up going to 9853/001 with the 8mm insert and it was a completely different engine.

If all you want to do is swap headers maybe try the 41001, 41032, or 41019. The 41021 is smooth, but a lot more tame than the square headers.

cczjordan 02-08-2016 05:38 PM


Originally Posted by Jerm13 (Post 14382604)
Not really wanting to get inside the motor.... That's why my original question was just about headers only... If I wanted to break the motor down, I would just get a new one and be done with it. Too much headaches and too many things to go wrong when frankenstiening mills. Im pretty sure engine manufacturers do their home work on their motors. Ill leave that to them and reap the benefits...:sneaky:

Try 2058 pipe, no matter what crank you use, it still uses the same sleeve which the porting is same so it wont make much difference unless you send it for mod then u will see something noticeable difference.

Does a ceramic bearing make so much difference to standard steel balls?

Does a silicone filled + tungsten balanced crank make much difference?

qstorm777 02-08-2016 05:51 PM


Originally Posted by bash bros (Post 14373370)
The 41032 is conical, and little shorter than the 41001. It's basically the conical version of the 41019. So with that, it should be a little more aggressive overall than the 41001.

Anybody use the 41031? I understand it's a short conical header, but not quite as short as the 41032. I'm just wondering how the 41031 performs?

bash bros 02-08-2016 07:49 PM


Originally Posted by qstorm777 (Post 14382654)
Anybody use the 41031? I understand it's a short conical header, but not quite as short as the 41032. I'm just wondering how the 41031 performs?

I've never ran it but the 41031 is basically the conical version of the 41021 and is supposed to have a little more bottom end.

Same thing with the 41032, its a conical version of the short 41019 square header. Makes a lot of power especially with a 9853 or 9886 and probably best for a high bite track or in truggy.

BigInJapan 02-09-2016 02:34 AM


Originally Posted by qstorm777 (Post 14382654)
Anybody use the 41031? I understand it's a short conical header, but not quite as short as the 41032. I'm just wondering how the 41031 performs?

I run the Mito 4, 41031 conical with 2096, does not lack low or high end, as compared alongside other race engines. I think it is an upgrade over the 41021 on which it is based and worth running...

Maximo 02-09-2016 03:42 AM

The square manifolds make quite a bit more power and RPM then do the curved manifolds...41032 smashes the 41033 just the same as a 41019 smashes a 41021........... 9853/9886 will substantially outperform the 2096 , and there will be no issue with run time, in fact the 9886 combo may even get better runtime considering your capped out looking for more top.... These 2 chamber pipes used to be the go to pipe till EFFRA forced a 3 chamber rule 10 years ago.........the rule was enacted because EFFRA wanted to slow the engines down and make every quieter.. Bad news is the 3 chamber pipes reduce power more effectively then they reduce noise......so basically racers everywhere are now running pipes thats primary purpose is to slow the engines down and reduce noise instead of pipes developed for performance and efficiency........ And no you don't increase mileage in a engine by choking off its exhaust so throw that concept out the window......

Jerm13 02-09-2016 04:58 AM


Originally Posted by Maximo (Post 14383144)
The square manifolds make quite a bit more power and RPM then do the curved manifolds...41032 smashes the 41033 just the same as a 41019 smashes a 41021........... 9853/9886 will substantially outperform the 2096 , and there will be no issue with run time, in fact the 9886 combo may even get better runtime considering your capped out looking for more top.... These 2 chamber pipes used to be the go to pipe till EFFRA forced a 3 chamber rule 10 years ago.........the rule was enacted because EFFRA wanted to slow the engines down and make every quieter.. Bad news is the 3 chamber pipes reduce power more effectively then they reduce noise......so basically racers everywhere are now running pipes thats primary purpose is to slow the engines down and reduce noise instead of pipes developed for performance and efficiency........ And no you don't increase mileage in a engine by choking off its exhaust so throw that concept out the window......

Thanks Neil.

Maximo 02-09-2016 05:13 AM


Originally Posted by Jerm13 (Post 14383187)
Thanks Neil.

Any time !

Also that Mizer insert will give you top end right comparable to a 7.5 mm insert but with better mileage...going to a 8 mm insert will increase top end but you will lose some mileage

qstorm777 02-09-2016 06:50 AM

Carb Inserts
 
Any reason to run the aluminum carb inserts over the plastic ones?

I can't find a 7.5mm alum insert. Any ideas as to where I can find one if alum is better?

qstorm777 02-09-2016 07:05 AM

Gaskets
 
What gaskets goes between the manifold and pipe (.21 offroad)? I can't find any info on that.

Thanks.

Socket 02-09-2016 09:05 AM


Originally Posted by qstorm777 (Post 14383359)
What gaskets goes between the manifold and pipe (.21 offroad)? I can't find any info on that.

Thanks.

The same as what goes on the back of the motor.

kgombe 02-09-2016 09:32 AM


Originally Posted by Socket (Post 14383557)
The same as what goes on the back of the motor.

not unless its one of those Novas that uses the red seal for the exhaust, those are different, you need the blue exhaust seal from Nova or any other 21 exhaust seal..


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