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Jerm13 08-20-2015 06:27 PM


Originally Posted by wichitafc98 (Post 14150313)
What Novarossi pipe manifold do I want to use for a lot of top end? I am either going to run a P5 or a Keep Off 4 or Mito 4.

I am doing GT racing

086 or 2058, with a short header pipe.

sn47som1 08-20-2015 07:19 PM


Originally Posted by Jerm13 (Post 14150305)
That is what I said and it is exactly what I ment. I would rather run way rich than way lean.

I bring up the other comment I said as well...

Never herd of a motor blowing up from having too much lubrication. Have seen tons grenade from lack of lube.

I do agree that running either at anytime sucks... but rather be too rich than too lean. Whether its a tad or a ton:D

:lol: killin me bud!! its not what you said...you said lean not way lean...2 different things. Your comparison was off thats all, again lean>way rich. You just can't assume someone on a forum knows what you mean you need to be more clear. Now comparing way lean and way rich of course way rich would be the better choice. Its okay to run a little bit lean the engines run better and at optimal performance when a little on the lean side (faint smoke trail)

sn47som1 08-20-2015 07:34 PM


Originally Posted by Jerm13 (Post 14150324)
086 or 2058, with a short header pipe.

2nd this for sure 086, 9886, 2058 or 2057. If you choose Nova run a 41001 and the top end will be amazing. If I had to choose it would be the 9886/41001 combo. The 2058 is a great choice too with better runtime but a few ticks less RPM than 9886.

bash bros 08-20-2015 07:48 PM


Originally Posted by B3nno810 (Post 14149382)
Im getting into nitro racing, i use to have a nitro years ago and got sick of it and got into electric. Im an ep guy but am wanting to get back into nitro for a bit of variety and fun. I just got a used Xray xt9 truggy to compliment my Xray Xb8e. I have an Alpha club racer for the time being to get into the swing of things and was going to stay with Alpha, but have been told theyre a pig to keep tune. So im looking at getting a Nova. But i cant decide between the Nova Mito 7 and the Rex legend 7. My home track is a medium size 1/8 offroad outdoor track with only 1 straight, and its not a massive straight. Just looking for a bit of guidance and input into the engines and whats better suited. Budget isnt an issue. I see the Mito has an extra 1000rpm and ceramic bearings on the rex 7. Just curious what other differences they have.
Cheers.

Jerm made a few good points. If you're just getting back into nitro theres A LOT of good truggy engines out there for under $200 bucks. Werks b5 with a 2013 pipe would be a good choice. P5xlt is always a good truggy engine too, especially paired with an 053 or 9853 pipe.

Also, the Top Elite 5 is a good truggy engine and a steal for around $160 as it is basically a Nova p5 with more timing and a cnc piston. You can even get a tuned one from Neal at TNS for just over 220 or so. There's a couple guys on here that run them in truggy and I've yet to hear anything bad about them.

You could stick with the Alphas too. Never owned one but there's a few guys I race with that are fans of the Argus and Alpha .21s. The one thing I always hear is that they run the best around 270° or even hotter sometimes. They are very tight pinch engines so maybe the tuning issues you're hearing of are related to break in issues. Rex at RW mods sells the Argus versions and will lap the sleeves which really helps the break in process go quicker.

Probably not the answer you were looking for, but just passing along few things I've learned along the way and some of the advice I was also given when I was just getting into nitro. Hope this helps ;)

B3nno810 08-20-2015 08:01 PM


Originally Posted by Jerm13 (Post 14150323)
The Alpha Club is a good engine. If I was going to compare it with other engines in its price range, the Nova P5 and Werks B2 would be right there. All about $180.
Keeping a tune has more to do with the owner and treatment of the engine that the manufacture. I have a Alpha Dragon that after the first gallon, I have moved the needle 1-2 hours just for altitude and air temp. It has 8 gallons on it. If having to move the needles 1 or 2 hours is a pig, then I hate to know what is worse:weird:

Depending on your nitro experience, and Im not trying to swing you one way or the other, but there are some engines that could be a better choice. If you are new or have little experience, you will ( and we have all done it) blow that engine up. Now, its a matter of if you want to spend $400 on a paper weight, or $200.

The Rex has a more aggressive crank timing which make it's power a little faster in the power band. Not a bad choice for a truck engine as they do carry a little more weight. The Mito is a little more smoother and the power slowly creeps up to its peak which is a little further in the RPM range but by no means is it a slow or a weak engine compared to the Rex. Its just different. If the track is open and flowing, the Mito may be better. If its tight with short straights and short run ups, the Rex may be better.

Good luck with your choice.

Cheers for that. I have enough knowledge of Nitro, and at my local track we have alot of nitro guys that are willing to lend a hand with or without being asked. So its pretty good. Sounds like the rex would be better if thats the case, as our track doesnt have long run ups to our jumps. It is quite a tight track.

I liked the Alpha cr for its price, just to get my feet wet again and to use as a back up engine. Hmm i see, yea i was told by a couple of people it can be a bit of a pig to tune compared to the novas and OS engines is all.

B3nno810 08-20-2015 08:05 PM


Originally Posted by bash bros (Post 14150425)
Jerm made a few good points. If you're just getting back into nitro theres A LOT of good truggy engines out there for under $200 bucks. Werks b5 with a 2013 pipe would be a good choice. P5xlt is always a good truggy engine too, especially paired with an 053 or 9853 pipe.

Also, the Top Elite 5 is a good truggy engine and a steal for around $160 as it is basically a Nova p5 with more timing and a cnc piston. You can even get a tuned one from Neal at TNS for just over 220 or so. There's a couple guys on here that run them in truggy and I've yet to hear anything bad about them.

You could stick with the Alphas too. Never owned one but there's a few guys I race with that are fans of the Argus and Alpha .21s. The one thing I always hear is that they run the best around 270° or even hotter sometimes. They are very tight pinch engines so maybe the tuning issues you're hearing of are related to break in issues. Rex at RW mods sells the Argus versions and will lap the sleeves which really helps the break in process go quicker.

Probably not the answer you were looking for, but just passing along few things I've learned along the way and some of the advice I was also given when I was just getting into nitro. Hope this helps ;)

Cheers man. Unfortunately the prices youre stating are alot cheaper then im going to get them for haha. Im Australian and our dollar has taken a hiding lately because of the Chinese devaluing theirs... hurts if i want anything from the states big time.

Ahh makes sense, the guys at my track run either OS or Novas, so i was going to stick with a Nova just for the help i can get with tuning etc. Also as my lhs can get in either Alphas, OS or Novas.

Im wanting a good truggy engine, ill pick up on it pretty quickly so im quite happy to spend the money up front so im not spending anothet $500+ further down the track on a better engine. Which is why i picked up the alpha cr as a steal just to get my feet wet.

djbxp 08-20-2015 10:41 PM

I have a keep off 4 .21 and a BTTS now on my buggy's. I like the motors a lot. I think i know how to tune after 1,5 years :) I want to ask 2 things.

1. what would be a proper maintenance schedule and a safe routine check to do?
2. is it bad to use OS P3/P4 glow plug? (sometimes is the only available in my town). Is there anything i can do to make this plug "compatible" ?

djbxp 08-21-2015 12:29 AM

by mistake .

cczjordan 08-21-2015 01:25 AM

I had been using taiwanese mills for 2 years n those mills are not weaker than nova or os. Regarding tune, it will hold d tune well n is a same long lsn carb so shouldn't be problem if u know how to tune.

Too bad, i started to use nova/rex now since it it affordable nowadays.

P3/p4 plug are ok but dont over tighten it, i would only recommend p4, p3 is not durable if u using minimum head shim/higher nitro/lean run. For break in, p3 all d y

Herrsavage 08-21-2015 02:15 AM

So where's the best price on this Elite 5? Cheap, powerful, and good value.. Sounds like my kind of engine.. (Elite 5 vs. RB Blast V15?.. I have the latter NIB just laying around..)

Any vids around of a stock Elite 5?

cczjordan 08-21-2015 03:11 AM


Originally Posted by Herrsavage (Post 14150665)
So where's the best price on this Elite 5? Cheap, powerful, and good value.. Sounds like my kind of engine.. (Elite 5 vs. RB Blast V15?.. I have the latter NIB just laying around..)

Any vids around of a stock Elite 5?

I would recommend rex paloma, try it to believe

Jerm13 08-21-2015 04:52 AM


Originally Posted by Jerm13 (Post 14148268)
It does sound like your tune is off more than anything. You keep saying you are leaning it out. Have you tried to richen it?

I would rather run way too rich than lean.

Good luck.


Originally Posted by sn47som1 (Post 14150392)
:lol: killin me bud!! its not what you said...you said lean not way lean...2 different things.

It was implied that there was a "way too" before the lean in that statement:lol:

bash bros 08-21-2015 05:49 AM


Originally Posted by Herrsavage (Post 14150665)
So where's the best price on this Elite 5? Cheap, powerful, and good value.. Sounds like my kind of engine.. (Elite 5 vs. RB Blast V15?.. I have the latter NIB just laying around..)

Any vids around of a stock Elite 5?

There's a few floating around on ebay, but shipping might be a bit cost prohibitive... aren't you in Germany?

If that's the case http://www.thenitroshop.com/top-elite-5/ might be your best bet. Shipping is like $40 still, but might still be the cheapest option.

shannow 08-21-2015 10:03 AM

Hi guys, I currently have a 25 Liters P5xlt and I'm already looking for a new engine for next year.
I wanted to know how much of a gap in power gain was there if I went and go for a mito 4 or 7 ?
Would there be a substantial difference or just a little bit ?

Thanks

cczjordan 08-21-2015 04:14 PM


Originally Posted by shannow (Post 14151137)
Hi guys, I currently have a 25 Liters P5xlt and I'm already looking for a new engine for next year.
I wanted to know how much of a gap in power gain was there if I went and go for a mito 4 or 7 ?
Would there be a substantial difference or just a little bit ?

Thanks

The mito line is very new and different, but coming from p5, get the 7 port


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