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Yeah. I honestly don't like the 9886 pipe., but I can tell you from experience the bent nova headers really make my engines sing on a 9853ss pipe. Plenty of torque and excellent top end, more than the short curved headers on that pipe. I like the 9853 because you never fall short on torque, but you can use the different length headers to tune for the top. For example, the 9853ss pipe with either the 41001 header, it's the medium but don't let that fool you on the top end performance, and I have not tried the 41019 short bent header, but I would imagine it would make lots of speed on the 9853 without sacrificing torque....or even the 9901 or whatever.
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RC CARS!
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I have the Novarossi plus 21-4c and the 9901 & 9853 pipe with the 41021 and 41020 manifold. What's the best combo for this engine? I'm running it on my Losi 8ight 2.0 buggy.
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9901 SS/41021 would be my choice.
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Originally Posted by Fd2k
(Post 9919270)
I have the Novarossi plus 21-4c and the 9901 & 9853 pipe with the 41021 and 41020 manifold. What's the best combo for this engine? I'm running it on my Losi 8ight 2.0 buggy.
9901/21 ftw |
Originally Posted by Fd2k
(Post 9919270)
I have the Novarossi plus 21-4c and the 9901 & 9853 pipe with the 41021 and 41020 manifold. What's the best combo for this engine? I'm running it on my Losi 8ight 2.0 buggy.
Use the 9853 for much more low end with good mileage. Use the 9901 to smooth things out a little with great mileage. Or use the 2096 SS pipe and don't look back:nod: |
Thanks for the fast respond guys. I also forgot to add that my local track has a lot of turns and 1 short straight away. Most of the turns has a triple jump and doubles. Hope this hope on which pipe is best. Here is a video of the track.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hkKdINeuNk |
Originally Posted by Fd2k
(Post 9919270)
I have the Novarossi plus 21-4c and the 9901 & 9853 pipe with the 41021 and 41020 manifold. What's the best combo for this engine? I'm running it on my Losi 8ight 2.0 buggy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoWhB...layer_embedded |
Hello, I have a Nova 4BTT in my MBX6 buggy, and would like to know that venturi is better, 6 or 6.5mm?
Thanks. Best Regards. |
Originally Posted by Guillermito
(Post 9921147)
Hello, I have a Nova 4BTT in my MBX6 buggy, and would like to know that venturi is better, 6 or 6.5mm?
Thanks. Best Regards. |
Ok, I watched this video of Adam Drake talking about two engines. This is what was said in the video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoWhB...layer_embedded Buggy: BTT engine 6mm restrictor steel flywheel 4 shoe clutch (2 composite & 2 aluminum) springs (composite shoe springs BLACK .036 25°)(aluminum shoe springs GREEN .036 30°) 9901 pipe 41021 header Truggy BONITO engine 7mm restrictor aluminum flywheel 4 shoe clutch (2 composite & 2 aluminum) springs (composite shoe springs GREEN .036 30°)(aluminum shoe springs GOLD .040 25°) 9901 pipe 41021 header My questions are: Lighter flywheel has what effect on motor? Heavier flywheel has what effect on motor? Lighter spring on composite shoe engages first, what advantage does this have? Heavier spring on aluminum shoe engages later, what advantage does this have? I run a RC8.2 with the same setup except a 6.5mm restrictor and a RC8 clutch with all aluminum shoes and 1.0x3 springs and my RC8T same except a 7.5mm restrictor 9853 pipe and a 41020 header and a RC8 clutch with all aluminum shoes and 1.0x3 springs........... |
Originally Posted by ABN Hoosier
(Post 9923785)
Ok, I watched this video of Adam Drake talking about two engines. This is what was said in the video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoWhB...layer_embedded Buggy: BTT engine 6mm restrictor steel flywheel 4 shoe clutch (2 composite & 2 aluminum) springs (composite shoe springs BLACK .036 25°)(aluminum shoe springs GREEN .036 30°) 9901 pipe 41021 header Truggy BONITO engine 7mm restrictor aluminum flywheel 4 shoe clutch (2 composite & 2 aluminum) springs (composite shoe springs GREEN .036 30°)(aluminum shoe springs GOLD .040 25°) 9901 pipe 41021 header My questions are: Lighter flywheel has what effect on motor? Heavier flywheel has what effect on motor? Lighter spring on composite shoe engages first, what advantage does this have? Heavier spring on aluminum shoe engages later, what advantage does this have? I run a RC8.2 with the same setup except a 6.5mm restrictor and a RC8 clutch with all aluminum shoes and 1.0x3 springs and my RC8T same except a 7.5mm restrictor 9853 pipe and a 41020 header and a RC8 clutch with all aluminum shoes and 1.0x3 springs........... lighter flywheel = quicker spool up lighter springs = more drag less torque. clutch engages sooner... |
Haha
HT P5 or Plus-4
Nova c6tgc plug 7mm venturi... alluminum flywheel Mugen hard clutch shoes, 1.0 springs.. novarossi 41001 manifold novarossi 9853ss pipe. 25% Byrons 11% oil. .70 head shimming... |
Originally Posted by Chad Phillips
(Post 9923938)
heavier flywheel = less wheel spin, smoother power band
lighter flywheel = quicker spool up lighter springs = more drag less torque. clutch engages sooner... |
Originally Posted by merdith6
(Post 9923995)
HT P5 or Plus-4
Nova c6tgc plug 7mm venturi... alluminum flywheel Mugen hard clutch shoes, 1.0 springs.. novarossi 41001 manifold novarossi 9853ss pipe. 25% Byrons 11% oil. .70 head shimming... |
Originally Posted by Chad Phillips
(Post 9922020)
I use the BTTS which is the same engine other than yours has a steel front bearing and mine is ceramic. I use the 6mm venturi with 41021 manifold and 9901 pipe. I use odonnell spend blend fuel and with this set up i can get over 11 minutes of run time. If I use the 2084 pipe i can go 13 minutes..
cheers |
Cool
Originally Posted by mcion
(Post 9924313)
I honestly would change the 9853 to 9901. The 9853 bottom end is just to insane where as the 9901 maintains good bottom end, but more controllable power.
I might tryit on the p5...in the Mugen, but I like the way the p5 drives with the 9853, and the plus-4 really leans more toward p5 performance with the 9853....but I do have a 9901. I may just try it a little more....Maybe with the bent header it will pep it up. |
Originally Posted by merdith6
(Post 9924486)
i tried the 9901 on the plus-4 and it was a bit too mild...Although it was in a test Durango, not the perfect test..
I might tryit on the p5...in the Mugen, but I like the way the p5 drives with the 9853, and the plus-4 really leans more toward p5 performance with the 9853....but I do have a 9901. I may just try it a little more....Maybe with the bent header it will pep it up. |
Originally Posted by ABN Hoosier
(Post 9923785)
Ok, I watched this video of Adam Drake talking about two engines. This is what was said in the video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoWhB...layer_embedded Buggy: BTT engine 6mm restrictor steel flywheel 4 shoe clutch (2 composite & 2 aluminum) springs (composite shoe springs BLACK .036 25°)(aluminum shoe springs GREEN .036 30°) 9901 pipe 41021 header Truggy BONITO engine 7mm restrictor aluminum flywheel 4 shoe clutch (2 composite & 2 aluminum) springs (composite shoe springs GREEN .036 30°)(aluminum shoe springs GOLD .040 25°) 9901 pipe 41021 header My questions are: Lighter flywheel has what effect on motor? Heavier flywheel has what effect on motor? Lighter spring on composite shoe engages first, what advantage does this have? Heavier spring on aluminum shoe engages later, what advantage does this have? I run a RC8.2 with the same setup except a 6.5mm restrictor and a RC8 clutch with all aluminum shoes and 1.0x3 springs and my RC8T same except a 7.5mm restrictor 9853 pipe and a 41020 header and a RC8 clutch with all aluminum shoes and 1.0x3 springs........... Best Regards. |
Originally Posted by Guillermito
(Post 9925466)
A small correction! Drake says uses 4BTT "S"
Best Regards. |
Originally Posted by Guillermito
(Post 9925466)
A small correction! Drake says uses 4BTT "S"
Best Regards. |
Originally Posted by kgombe
(Post 9925685)
which the only difference is a front ceramic
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Yeah
Originally Posted by mcion
(Post 9924828)
I tested them back to back at mikes, last weekend and was getting a lot more wheelspin with the 9853, which was causing me to lose time. Thru the 9901 on, and there was more usable traction so times got better. Track was dusty though.
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Originally Posted by aussies1129
(Post 9924354)
did you richen your needles much going from a 6.5 to a 6mm venturi?
cheers |
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I just bought an OS 5,5 mm venturi. Can wait to test it. Perfect fit in a Novarossi carburator :nod: |
Originally Posted by ben73
(Post 9926816)
you need to lean the needles as you have less air to the carb when you go from 6.5mm to 6mm
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Originally Posted by aussies1129
(Post 9926883)
yes thats right I got it the wrong way around, last week I forgot to put a carb insert in and it was rich as:lol:
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BTT.......ok, 6mm venturi.....too hard to tune compared to 6.5mm...geeze, went back to 6.5. :cry:
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Originally Posted by ABN Hoosier
(Post 9929149)
BTT.......ok, 6mm venturi.....too hard to tune compared to 6.5mm...geeze, went back to 6.5. :cry:
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Originally Posted by houston
(Post 9929280)
Thars what I was getting at earlier ;)
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Does anyone know what the stock restrictors are for the team p4 and the bonito?
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Originally Posted by ben73
(Post 9926816)
you need to lean the needles as you have less air to the carb when you go from 6.5mm to 6mm
Thanks. Best Regards. |
Originally Posted by Seattlelife22
(Post 9929877)
Does anyone know what the stock restrictors are for the team p4 and the bonito?
i will istall the 8mm for you to use during initial break in , after that i would recommend starting with a 7mm |
Originally Posted by Guillermito
(Post 9929937)
When using a smaller venturi (6.5 to 6mm), you must open the needles, is that correct? How many "minutes" is necessary to open the needles?
Thanks. Best Regards. remember that the smaller the restrictor the smaller the tuning window and higher the temps , adam runs his stuff about 270-290 most of the time , it is novarossi of course ;) |
How to Tune by Jared Tebo
The audio isn't the greatest, but Tebo really helped me out with these vid's. :nod: Pass it on, knowledge is power.
PART 1: :nod: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwzcW..._order&list=UL PART 2: :nod: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lM_B...eature=related |
Originally Posted by ABN Hoosier
(Post 9932321)
The audio isn't the greatest, but Tebo really helped me out with these vid's. :nod: Pass it on, knowledge is power.
PART 1: :nod: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwzcW..._order&list=UL PART 2: :nod: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lM_B...eature=related |
I'm very surprised that Nova still make the .28 and have not dropped it in favor of a .23/.24. I have some old school .28 here from my MT racing days the Nova .28 528XR modified and it is a animal... I know the Bonito is right up there with the power to pull a Truggy around, But having a look in the Novarossi site last night just surprised me that's all......
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Originally Posted by houston
(Post 9932441)
I learned a few things from watching Jared and Adrien tune at nationals , biggest improvement from tuning like they do is HUGE mileage increases , very lean lsn , little rich top
Monty - how much time gain did you see? |
I tried tuning according to Saxton's "How To" video leaning the LSN 1st, then turning in the HSN. I then tried Tebo's method going HSN then LSN. This worked out better for me. My bottom was loading up and now I think I got it.
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Tebo's video is about the same ad Bernard Durand From Racing Experiance, he has a novarossi video on vimeo. That is the exact same way I do my tune now
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