NOVAROSSI Engine thread....
#4021
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really?
that is not true man , novarossi is all about bringing the best they possibly can , the only real challenge they have right now is competing price wise with all the low cost and some lower quality engines .
that 17011 is the baddest front bearing on the planet , if you think you need to plug "the vacuum port" do it but i guarantee it is not necessary , its a total non issue . btw , many other manufacturers have the exact same "vacuum port" , why is it only exclusively being talked about for novarossi engines?
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that is not true man , novarossi is all about bringing the best they possibly can , the only real challenge they have right now is competing price wise with all the low cost and some lower quality engines .
that 17011 is the baddest front bearing on the planet , if you think you need to plug "the vacuum port" do it but i guarantee it is not necessary , its a total non issue . btw , many other manufacturers have the exact same "vacuum port" , why is it only exclusively being talked about for novarossi engines?
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But I don't think they will remove it anyway.
#4023
lil-no dust - lightly oiled inner outer
heavy dust - medium oiled inner light outer and vet wrap
many levels in between

this is the novarossi thread though , lets all talk novarossi !!!

awesomest engines on the planet
#4024
thanks Rex...that is exactly what I thought....... Same taper angle, same thread pitch... same bottom diameter.... plug seats perfectly with no issues....


.....Issues only from over tightening ......... For those who don't know Rex is a tool and Die maker with access to the most precise measuring tools and techniques.........An Optical comparator is not a joke.......



.....Issues only from over tightening ......... For those who don't know Rex is a tool and Die maker with access to the most precise measuring tools and techniques.........An Optical comparator is not a joke.......So now we use an OS plug in a Nova without "over tightening." What torque value is that?
Not exactly using a torques wrench when replacing my plugs. And when I'm racing and all I have is a glow plug wrench and a quick glow plug change is required, I'm not exactly hoping my mechanic is thinking about how much to torque the plug.
Rather not take the chance.
#4025
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I always thought that hole was for lubrictaion of the front bearing. If a crankcase and cranck is perfectly matched, you could will never have a problem with a front bearing leaking or sucking air to mess up your tune. In a perfect engine, the front bearing would only get luberication from that whole.
Well, maybe i was wrong.
Well, maybe i was wrong.
#4027
So what we do know is that there are differences in plugs, and over tightening can ruin a Nova button head.
So now we use an OS plug in a Nova without "over tightening." What torque value is that?
Not exactly using a torques wrench when replacing my plugs. And when I'm racing and all I have is a glow plug wrench and a quick glow plug change is required, I'm not exactly hoping my mechanic is thinking about how much to torque the plug.
Rather not take the chance.
So now we use an OS plug in a Nova without "over tightening." What torque value is that?
Not exactly using a torques wrench when replacing my plugs. And when I'm racing and all I have is a glow plug wrench and a quick glow plug change is required, I'm not exactly hoping my mechanic is thinking about how much to torque the plug.
Rather not take the chance.

Besides I prefer my glowplugs tight and fresh
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So what we do know is that there are differences in plugs, and over tightening can ruin a Nova button head.
So now we use an OS plug in a Nova without "over tightening." What torque value is that?
Not exactly using a torques wrench when replacing my plugs. And when I'm racing and all I have is a glow plug wrench and a quick glow plug change is required, I'm not exactly hoping my mechanic is thinking about how much to torque the plug.
Rather not take the chance.
So now we use an OS plug in a Nova without "over tightening." What torque value is that?
Not exactly using a torques wrench when replacing my plugs. And when I'm racing and all I have is a glow plug wrench and a quick glow plug change is required, I'm not exactly hoping my mechanic is thinking about how much to torque the plug.
Rather not take the chance.
Snug it and tighten it to where you feel is enough that it won't come out but not gorilla'd
#4030
So what we do know is that there are differences in plugs, and over tightening can ruin a Nova button head.
So now we use an OS plug in a Nova without "over tightening." What torque value is that?
Not exactly using a torques wrench when replacing my plugs. And when I'm racing and all I have is a glow plug wrench and a quick glow plug change is required, I'm not exactly hoping my mechanic is thinking about how much to torque the plug.
Rather not take the chance.
So now we use an OS plug in a Nova without "over tightening." What torque value is that?
Not exactly using a torques wrench when replacing my plugs. And when I'm racing and all I have is a glow plug wrench and a quick glow plug change is required, I'm not exactly hoping my mechanic is thinking about how much to torque the plug.
Rather not take the chance.
Last edited by PERROTTO; 09-22-2012 at 11:49 AM. Reason: Oops
#4031
#4032
I contact Nova they sent me to their engine designer / engineer. I explained the debate and details and asked if he could determine if a OS plug is usable in a Nova Turbo button.. I'm waiting for a response once received I will post. I personally won't run OS plugs in my Novas cause of my experiences.
#4033
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Joined: Oct 2011
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From: norway
If i dont remember wrong i did use a 4mm first.I could lurk it around in the screwhead and it did ruin the screws a little.
Then i find a bigger and thicker 5mm that fits just exactly in the screwhead.
I had to hammer it a little to fit.And with the bigger handle of this screwdriver it was a piece of cake to get it loose.
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http://clockworkracingengines.com/co...-pcs-am-130992
Bigger handle=more torque, so it will remove em. I have those drivers, they're awesome.
#4035
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really?
that is not true man , novarossi is all about bringing the best they possibly can , the only real challenge they have right now is competing price wise with all the low cost and some lower quality engines .
that 17011 is the baddest front bearing on the planet , if you think you need to plug "the vacuum port" do it but i guarantee it is not necessary , its a total non issue . btw , many other manufacturers have the exact same "vacuum port" , why is it only exclusively being talked about for novarossi engines?
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plug explanation
that is not true man , novarossi is all about bringing the best they possibly can , the only real challenge they have right now is competing price wise with all the low cost and some lower quality engines .
that 17011 is the baddest front bearing on the planet , if you think you need to plug "the vacuum port" do it but i guarantee it is not necessary , its a total non issue . btw , many other manufacturers have the exact same "vacuum port" , why is it only exclusively being talked about for novarossi engines?
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plug explanation
Maybe it is the tuning,maybe it is the vacum i dont know.
When that is said i did already have 3 novas.
The first one 21-4 was never pluged and lasted around 40 liter,didnt change or do anything to it.
Second one 21-4 did only last around 30-35liter then the clips holding the piston pin did came of making scratches.
The first one i then did change the bearings,and only the bearings just to try.
It was almoust impossible to tune right,but i did get pretty close.
Then i did see the video about this hole needded to be plugged.
So i did.Then it was more easy to tune and it did idle better.The bearings was not enough to make it good after 40 liter,i did expect this,but anyway...
I also have a 21-4btt and i did have a runaway with it ruining the bearings.
This one had around 12 liter.When i changed to avid back and front bearings i also pluged the vacum port.
And it idles better and is more easy to tune.I hardly need to adjust the needles anymore.
So as i can see it it is not so importent to do it and maybe i loose a few second on a tank or something i dont know.But it also dosent hurt to plug the vacum hole



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