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houston 11-15-2010 06:15 AM


Originally Posted by jackhammer (Post 8211950)
Pin on intake on block on exhaust on sleeve . Breakingin sounded strange .looked in exhaust port little intake port hardly could see piston p5 engine

Very interesting , and you're saying this was in a factory sealed engine?

jackhammer 11-15-2010 09:54 AM

Yes maybe I will just notch it on other side and run it ?

jackhammer 11-15-2010 03:02 PM

I,m going to return it thanks

houston 11-15-2010 04:52 PM


Originally Posted by jackhammer (Post 8214151)
I,m going to return it thanks

Where did u purchase it from?

And just fyi , I have seen thousands of novarossi engines and not once have I seen that , that's what making me question it jackhammer .

Hope it all gets worked out , if not send it in to me and I will make sure it is right for ya

jackhammer 11-16-2010 04:22 AM

LHS .had the same reaction you did when I told them will swap out though so that's awesome.

Bugman 11-16-2010 05:55 AM

Hello,I was wondering if anyone can help me.I was thinking of buying the nova p5xl for my truggy for next season.I was reading the info on the motor and novarossi recommends no more than 25% nitro my question is it safe to use 30% percent byrons or just get 25% byrons also what pipes do you guys recommend the track i race at is pretty big but it is tight and twisty no real long straight,s thank,s Jack

revo61 11-16-2010 06:18 AM


Originally Posted by Bugman (Post 8217178)
Hello,I was wondering if anyone can help me.I was thinking of buying the nova p5xl for my truggy for next season.I was reading the info on the motor and novarossi recommends no more than 25% nitro my question is it safe to use 30% percent byrons or just get 25% byrons also what pipes do you guys recommend the track i race at is pretty big but it is tight and twisty no real long straight,s thank,s Jack

Yes you can run 30% in it just fine and get the 2084 pipe.
http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...pe-No-Manifold

kgombe 11-16-2010 06:42 AM


Originally Posted by Bugman (Post 8217178)
Hello,I was wondering if anyone can help me.I was thinking of buying the nova p5xl for my truggy for next season.I was reading the info on the motor and novarossi recommends no more than 25% nitro my question is it safe to use 30% percent byrons or just get 25% byrons also what pipes do you guys recommend the track i race at is pretty big but it is tight and twisty no real long straight,s thank,s Jack

Talk to Monty.. Houston on the forums.. or just visit this site and u can drop him an email or PM.. email might be your best bet... great guy and will get you hooked up with what you need...

http://www.houstonsengineservice.com/

merdith6 11-16-2010 10:56 PM

Hello
 
I think all novas are shimmed for 30% if it's a newer black case.

Those instructions are a bit old, but not a bad idea to use 25% in my opinion, just about everyone else uses 30%.

houston 11-17-2010 05:15 AM

No problem whatsoever using 30% fuel (byrons recommended) in all novarossi offroad engines .

Lmk if you want to purchase a p5xlt , I will do my best to make sure u are well informed and happy with your decision .

Happy motorin',
Monty

Trespasser1 11-17-2010 08:24 AM

whats the cheapest nova motor and has the longest parts list?

like p/r/s?
bearings

jnc011994 12-05-2010 09:10 PM

Question
 
Hi guys,

simple question... I have an old 21-5KT (busted rod/piston/sleeve). Just got a used Plus21-7KT. Can i just simply switch rod/piston/sleeve from Plus21-7KT to 21-5KT?

Thanks,

houston 12-05-2010 09:47 PM


Originally Posted by jnc011994 (Post 8302994)
Hi guys,

simple question... I have an old 21-5KT (busted rod/piston/sleeve). Just got a used Plus21-7KT. Can i just simply switch rod/piston/sleeve from Plus21-7KT to 21-5KT?

Thanks,

Your pm answered

Hope that helped,
Monty

Btw , the answer is yes

Even though there are some crankcase porting differences it will work ;)

jnc011994 12-06-2010 02:06 PM


Originally Posted by houston (Post 8303121)
Your pm answered

Hope that helped,
Monty

Btw , the answer is yes

Even though there are some crankcase porting differences it will work ;)

'Thanks... :)

houston 12-06-2010 09:45 PM


Originally Posted by jnc011994 (Post 8305960)
'Thanks... :)

btw , do you know eduardo coseteng from over there ?

one of my very good customers and a super good guy :)

bohdi 12-08-2010 08:02 AM

what is a comparable plug to the recommended CT6 in a P5?
I am dabbling back into nitro after a running electrics and you (and I) can say I am a noob again. I did not have good luck with the recommended Nova plugs when I used to run over 2 years ago...the OD and OS plugs seemed to be much better for me back then.
I run in TX with 50%-80% humidity if that matters.

houston 12-08-2010 08:07 AM


Originally Posted by bohdi (Post 8314519)
what is a comparable plug to the recommended CT6 in a P5?
I am dabbling back into nitro after a running electrics and you (and I) can say I am a noob again. I did not have good luck with the recommended Nova plugs when I used to run over 2 years ago...the OD and OS plugs seemed to be much better for me back then.
I run in TX with 50%-80% humidity if that matters.

odonnell 97t or 87t

the newer c6tgc plugs are pretty good , a touch on the cool side and a lil harder to tune but make great power .

let me know if you need anything ;)

www.houstonsengineservice.com

bohdi 12-08-2010 08:10 AM


Originally Posted by houston (Post 8314542)
odonnell 97t or 87t

the newer c6tgc plugs are pretty good , a touch on the cool side and a lil harder to tune but make great power .

let me know if you need anything ;)

www.houstonsengineservice.com


OK..school me ;)

How do you know whether to use a Hot or medium plug? are there general nitro rules to live by?

houston 12-08-2010 08:32 AM


Originally Posted by bohdi (Post 8314551)
OK..school me ;)

How do you know whether to use a Hot or medium plug? are there general nitro rules to live by?

its usually a temperature thing but humidity plays a bit of a factor as well as how hot your fuel is ie. percentages of nitro .

higher temp is supppose to equal to cooler plug (not cold but medium) but high humidity can fill the combustion chamber with unburnable moisture drawn from the air which in my findings it has been found that keeping with a medium hot will help ignite the fuel better as well as keeping with the cooler plug and lowering deck heighth (shimming) .

cooler temps is supposed to equal hotter plug , usually stick with the medium hot and have no issues . 97t fits the bill in most all situations that is why it is highly recommended .

bohdi 12-08-2010 08:35 AM

Thank you so much!
BTW, thanks for posting your break-in procedure!
I will be using your heat cycling method on the mill next week!

bohdi 12-14-2010 08:07 AM

How do you know which venturi to use in a P5X?
the blue 6.5 is installed so is that the one best suited for the mill?

Trevor Williams 12-14-2010 08:10 AM

that's a personal preference for the most part, it depends on driving style, run time needed, performance needed, track size etc.....Monty will elaborate more Im sure.

houston 12-14-2010 04:27 PM


Originally Posted by bohdi (Post 8341519)
How do you know which venturi to use in a P5X?
the blue 6.5 is installed so is that the one best suited for the mill?

truck 7 and a half buggy 6 and a half;)

bohdi 12-14-2010 05:54 PM


Originally Posted by houston (Post 8343529)
truck 7 and a half buggy 6 and a half;)

OK thanks and last question. I have the RC8B with this P5X and a dynamite 86HS pipe but the pipe is too short. I need a longer pipe. Would the 9901 be a better fit?

how about the Reedy pipes. They seem longer too but don't know if that would work that great as the 9901 or 86
reedy 2035 or 2039

houston 12-14-2010 06:55 PM


Originally Posted by bohdi (Post 8343912)
OK thanks and last question. I have the RC8B with this P5X and a dynamite 86HS pipe but the pipe is too short. I need a longer pipe. Would the 9901 be a better fit?

how about the Reedy pipes. They seem longer too but don't know if that would work that great as the 9901 or 86
reedy 2035 or 2039

get a new pipe hanger;)

bohdi 12-14-2010 07:30 PM


Originally Posted by houston (Post 8344202)
get a new pipe hanger;)

Sure, I can use a coat hanger to span the gap.....It is WAY short...I know it will work but it just seems so busted and horribly pieced together

jnc011994 12-14-2010 09:02 PM


Originally Posted by houston (Post 8308093)
btw , do you know eduardo coseteng from over there ?

one of my very good customers and a super good guy :)

Hi Monty,

If you mean "Jody Coseteng" then yes, i know him... consistently running in A-Main in many races here in the Philippines. Customer? did he ordered something? And yes superb guy, very helpful to us.. noobies.. :)

houston 12-15-2010 12:03 PM


Originally Posted by jnc011994 (Post 8344776)
Hi Monty,

If you mean "Jody Coseteng" then yes, i know him... consistently running in A-Main in many races here in the Philippines. Customer? did he ordered something? And yes superb guy, very helpful to us.. noobies.. :)

yes thats him and he is more than a customer , a good guy and i stay in close contact with him as much as i can anyway and he has been the customer who has purchased more than 10 others combined ;)

he must have about 20 engines from me if not more :blush:

he loves those toro nero team engines :weird::lol:

houston 12-15-2010 12:04 PM


Originally Posted by bohdi (Post 8343912)
OK thanks and last question. I have the RC8B with this P5X and a dynamite 86HS pipe but the pipe is too short. I need a longer pipe. Would the 9901 be a better fit?

how about the Reedy pipes. They seem longer too but don't know if that would work that great as the 9901 or 86
reedy 2035 or 2039

truggy , the engine rocks with either 2084ss or 9853ss and 41021 header :D

bohdi 12-15-2010 12:41 PM


Originally Posted by houston (Post 8347055)
truggy , the engine rocks with either 2084ss or 9853ss and 41021 header :D

I am running buggy and prefer a 7inch pipe (I know, that is what she said);)
the 2039 I hear is more of a top end pipe similar to 086 but wondering on the 2035.

houston 12-15-2010 12:47 PM


Originally Posted by bohdi (Post 8347199)
I am running buggy and prefer a 7inch pipe (I know, that is what she said);)
the 2039 I hear is more of a top end pipe similar to 086 but wondering on the 2035.

9853ss/41021!!!

2035 sucks on nova engines for one and its no coincedence that novarossi pipes work awesome on novarossi engines

good pipes other than novarossi for novarossi

2013 , 086hs dynamite , 053mr dynamite , jp racing 2032 (awesome) , jp-4 or jp-6 , msr/bullit 1005 , the old thunder tiger 2035 pipe works fairly well , there are more but thats what i can think of at the moment

the jp-3 works fairly well but i dont much like the feel of the pipe and nova engines usually dont get great runtime with this pipe ;)

davet323 12-16-2010 04:37 AM

nova +4
 
Giday Guys

I have a nova +4 with 41021man and 9901 pipe
I have trouble starting when hot it is fine starting when its cold.
Real hard to start if i give throttle when trying to start or if pit guy put finger over pipe to try give more fuel.
I find the only way to get started when warm or hot is to trim throttle 3 or 4 clicks and bump start on box 2 or 3 sec at a time for 10 or more times. But this still takes lots of tries to get it going (if flames out in race it pretty much allover as it take forever too get it going again)

If you know what i mean. (i am fairly new to this rc game)

and i am using rb5 plug as cant get nova plugs from LHS.

So can anyone out there able to help me with this problem
P.S would odonnell 97t be better?

cheers thanks in advance.

Dave

teamlosi906 12-16-2010 04:41 AM


Originally Posted by davet323 (Post 8350191)
Giday Guys

I have a nova +4 with 41021man and 9901 pipe
I have trouble starting when hot it is fine starting when its cold.
Real hard to start if i give throttle when trying to start or if pit guy put finger over pipe to try give more fuel.
I find the only way to get started when warm or hot is to trim throttle 3 or 4 clicks and bump start on box 2 or 3 sec at a time for 10 or more times. But this still takes lots of tries to get it going (if flames out in race it pretty much allover as it take forever too get it going again)

If you know what i mean. (i am fairly new to this rc game)

and i am using rb5 plug as cant get nova plugs from LHS.

So can anyone out there able to help me with this problem
P.S would odonnell 97t be better?

cheers thanks in advance.

Dave

How much run time on the motor? Sounds like low compression. 97tplug works great!!

davet323 12-16-2010 04:45 AM

giday
nah pretty new about 2 -3 gallens.. comp is pretty good i think

teamlosi906 12-16-2010 04:49 AM


Originally Posted by davet323 (Post 8350209)
giday
nah pretty new about 2 -3 gallens.. comp is pretty good i think

What temps are you running,might be running to hot I would try the 97T plug first. Im sure Monty will help you out. And what carb insert are you using

davet323 12-16-2010 04:51 AM


Originally Posted by teamlosi906 (Post 8350218)
What temps are you running,might be running to hot I would try the 97T plug first. Im sure Monty will help you out. And what carb insert are you using

6.5 insert and around 100c in temp

revo61 12-16-2010 06:00 AM

You have a air leak somewhere.

the_winner 12-16-2010 07:28 AM

some help from a nova guru?(em. houston? )
http://www.rctech.net/forum/offroad-...g-17011-a.html

mist467 12-16-2010 12:03 PM

Hello all...I have a plus 4 with about a gallon and a half on it. I cant seem to find the right spot on it. Its either rich or bonkers power. Im also seeing some wetness around the front bearing. My needle setting are about 1 turn out from flush on the bottom and a lil in from flush on the top. Is my front bearing shot or is my bottom to fat? Have a feeling the bearing is fine and im just running my bottom to fat...anyone have a good baseline?. Thanks

the_winner 12-16-2010 12:30 PM


Originally Posted by the_winner (Post 8350662)
some help from a nova guru?(em. houston? )
http://www.rctech.net/forum/offroad-...g-17011-a.html

mr Houston can you ''clear'' the topic and solve my/our problem about the 17011 bearing from novarossi. Nova have a new bearing 7x19x6x6.3? or all of the years the nova had the same bearing?because my engine have different bearing from this which i receive


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