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Originally Posted by Werks
(Post 10947313)
In high humidity high temp conditions you usually want to go with a hotter plug. I'm not sure what the OS version would be but compared to the OS P3 in our plug line our new #4 plug would be hotter. So this is the first change that I would make. This is going to resolve the random flame out issues or stalling out as you called it. Then the next thing that we often do is go up in restrictor size (run a larger restrictor than the stock 7mm). In high humidity, high temp conditions the engines seem to benefit from increasing the amount of air flow through the carb. This also allows you to run the engine slightly richer and also to produce more overall power and also makes the engines seem less sensitive to tune. Give these two things a shot, I'm sure that you will find that they help!
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There should be no problem running one less thin shim but as i allways say, if you adjust deck height make run one tank and then pull the head button to check for signs of detonation!
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Would signs of detonation be a rough combustion chamber and top of the piston?
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Originally Posted by Honu
(Post 10948621)
Would signs of detonation be a rough combustion chamber and top of the piston?
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I have recently bought a B5 2010 model engine and i want to know what pipe u guys recommend. Im using it in a buggy.
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Originally Posted by DJGray17
(Post 10949759)
I have recently bought a B5 2010 model engine and i want to know what pipe u guys recommend. Im using it in a buggy.
I've got a Dynamite 053 on mine and have been told it's not a great pipe, I'm not a fan of cheap pipes but it was on the motor when I got it. I've got a JP-4 as well but from what I've heard it's not a good "fit" for this motor either, in a buggy. Now for my redundant question coming back to nitro after years off and little experience with them at all.... running a DNX408V2, when I'm near a fuel stop (less than a 1/4 tank) and I need to be marshaled :rolleyes: it makes it about 40 feet after getting back on it's wheels and then dies. Not on it's lid for that long either 4-6 seconds at most. I'm guessing by my LS needle movement that it's too rich on the bottom? Other than that it runs well, has tons of power, temps at 230. Is there any chance that the plug could be the issue as well? You guys will be me up on this part but I have no idea how old the plug is either. Motor only has a gallon + on it though... |
Originally Posted by racer1812
(Post 10950111)
It's a redundant question but I'm on the fence about pipes as well so I too would like to know if the Werks 2013 is still the best choice....
I've got a Dynamite 053 on mine and have been told it's not a great pipe, I'm not a fan of cheap pipes but it was on the motor when I got it. I've got a JP-4 as well but from what I've heard it's not a good "fit" for this motor either, in a buggy. Now for my redundant question coming back to nitro after years off and little experience with them at all.... running a DNX408V2, when I'm near a fuel stop (less than a 1/4 tank) and I need to be marshaled :rolleyes: it makes it about 40 feet after getting back on it's wheels and then dies. Not on it's lid for that long either 4-6 seconds at most. I'm guessing by my LS needle movement that it's too rich on the bottom? Other than that it runs well, has tons of power, temps at 230. Is there any chance that the plug could be the issue as well? You guys will be me up on this part but I have no idea how old the plug is either. Motor only has a gallon + on it though... |
I feel dumb and will say I should have known better (flew glow planes for years and would laugh at guys with trouble, walk by and say change your plug) 9 times out of 10 I was right.:rolleyes:
Tried to do a street run tonight and it wouldn't fire, checked the plug and it was WEAK. Put in a new Werks #5 and it fired up and ran like a champ. Gonna have to wait for next Sunday to give it a fresh track tune. For a used motor with a "claimed" gallon through it I'm impressed, I'll be buying a fresh B5 or maybe a B6 Pro for the start of next season for sure! I was an O.S. guy for years from my plane days but I'm impressed with Werks for sure. I run against some high $ motors and I just can't justify the cost when my "base model" Werks can hang right with them. |
Hey werks crew and fellow werk lovers. I got a question on my Werks B5 Pro. My motor has just about 1 1/2 gallons in her. Yesterday I was tuning her for the weekend at my local track. I noticed when she reached around 225ish, coming down the stretch (possibly topping out or close too) the motor would cut in and out very fast but only during high speeds. Is it my imagination or am I doing something wrong?
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Originally Posted by Airlmeier4422
(Post 10953027)
Hey werks crew and fellow werk lovers. I got a question on my Werks B5 Pro. My motor has just about 1 1/2 gallons in her. Yesterday I was tuning her for the weekend at my local track. I noticed when she reached around 225ish, coming down the stretch (possibly topping out or close too) the motor would cut in and out very fast but only during high speeds. Is it my imagination or am I doing something wrong?
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switched fuel not happy
I have a RC8b that I have been running my B5 with 7mm restrictor, werks 2013 pipe using a OS P3 plug....up till now I have been using Sidewinder 30% nitro 12% oil Race blend....a pretty inexpensive fuel. I have been getting about 8-9 minutes of run time running a little rich...motor temped out consistently at 210-220 after a 15 minute race.
The LHS ran out of the Sidewinder race blend and recommended the 30% Strike Team, same manufacturer as Sidewinder just their pro race fuel. I expected to need to lean it out, as the owner of the LHS said would be normal. I did lean it out quite a bit over 1 full turn on the high and not quite that on the low... adjusted idle gap and tuned as per Werks instructions. Set the idle, ran it up to temp, adjusted high then double checked low. The fuel seems alot more sensitive to tuning, and hour makes a big difference, makes sense if the fuel is "thinner"...the issue is I have lost quite a bit of run time. The first test run after 3 minutes my motor was up to 260, still had a good trail of smoke, no lean bogging or high idle after running, no signs of running lean, I took a couple more laps and I ran out of fuel at 6 minutes:confused: I put in a brand new P3 plug, reset the needles flush, set the idle gap and started over again, the best I got was 7 minutes on a tank coming off at 260 degrees... If I richen it up temps come down to 245-250 degress but runtimes drop to 6 to 61/2minutes. It runs pretty good, good power, good smoke, good idle and throttle response...just crappy run time. I am a little shocked, most local guys running nitro GT8 onroad cars have been trying to get me to switch to the Strike Team claiming their temps came down and run times went up just a little. I would switch back but the LHS has had the fuel on order for a while and it hasnt came in yet. Anyone have any recommendations? I am running in Utah, low humidity, 90 degree weather at 4000 feet in elevation, Motor has just under 2 gallons on it. Do I need to go to a different restrictor, different plug?....colder plug? hotter plug? change shims? |
Originally Posted by utah300rum
(Post 10956063)
I have a RC8b that I have been running my B5 with 7mm restrictor, werks 2013 pipe using a OS P3 plug....up till now I have been using Sidewinder 30% nitro 12% oil Race blend....a pretty inexpensive fuel. I have been getting about 8-9 minutes of run time running a little rich...motor temped out consistently at 210 after a 6 minute race.
The LHS ran out of the Sidewinder race blend and recommended the 30% Strike Team, same manufacturer as Sidewinder just their pro race fuel. I expected to need to lean it out. I did lean it out quite a bit about 1 full turn on the high and not quite that on the low... adjusted idle gap and tuned as per Werks instructions. Set the idle, ran it up to temp, adjusted high then double checked low. The fuel seems alot more sensitive to tuning, and hour makes a big difference, makes sense it the fuel is "thinner"...the issue is I have lost quite a bit of run time. The first test run after 3 minutes my motor was up to 260, I took a couple more laps and I ran out of fuel at 6 minutes:confused: I put in a brand new P3 plug, reset the needles flush, set the idle gap and started over again, the best I got was 7 minutes on a tank coming off at 260-270 degrees... If I richen it up temps come down to 245-250 degress but runtimes drop to 6 to 61/2minutes. I am a little shocked, most local guys running nitro GT8 onroad cars have been trying to get me to switch to the Strike Team claiming their temps came down and run times went up just a little. I would switch back but the LHS has had the fuel on order for a while and it hasnt came in yet. Anyone have any recommendations? do I need to go to a different plug?colder plug? hotter plug? change shims? |
Originally Posted by utah300rum
(Post 10956063)
I have a RC8b that I have been running my B5 with 7mm restrictor, werks 2013 pipe using a OS P3 plug....up till now I have been using Sidewinder 30% nitro 12% oil Race blend....a pretty inexpensive fuel. I have been getting about 8-9 minutes of run time running a little rich...motor temped out consistently at 210-220 after a 15 minute race.
The LHS ran out of the Sidewinder race blend and recommended the 30% Strike Team, same manufacturer as Sidewinder just their pro race fuel. I expected to need to lean it out, as the owner of the LHS said would be normal. I did lean it out quite a bit over 1 full turn on the high and not quite that on the low... adjusted idle gap and tuned as per Werks instructions. Set the idle, ran it up to temp, adjusted high then double checked low. The fuel seems alot more sensitive to tuning, and hour makes a big difference, makes sense if the fuel is "thinner"...the issue is I have lost quite a bit of run time. The first test run after 3 minutes my motor was up to 260, still had a good trail of smoke, no lean bogging or high idle after running, no signs of running lean, I took a couple more laps and I ran out of fuel at 6 minutes:confused: I put in a brand new P3 plug, reset the needles flush, set the idle gap and started over again, the best I got was 7 minutes on a tank coming off at 260 degrees... If I richen it up temps come down to 245-250 degress but runtimes drop to 6 to 61/2minutes. It runs pretty good, good power, good smoke, good idle and throttle response...just crappy run time. I am a little shocked, most local guys running nitro GT8 onroad cars have been trying to get me to switch to the Strike Team claiming their temps came down and run times went up just a little. I would switch back but the LHS has had the fuel on order for a while and it hasnt came in yet. Anyone have any recommendations? I am running in Utah, low humidity, 90 degree weather at 4000 feet in elevation, Motor has just under 2 gallons on it. Do I need to go to a different restrictor, different plug?....colder plug? hotter plug? change shims? Some might not be happy with me saying this but being candid with you, that fuel is probably one of the harshest in regards to engine wear. Given the option I'd probably recommend that you run something like Byrons Gen II instead fwiw. |
A lot of people don't exactly have a smorgasboard of fuels to choose from.
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Originally Posted by Herrsavage
(Post 10956303)
A lot of people don't exactly have a smorgasboard of fuels to choose from.
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