Hey Greg, does your LHS have any of the combos in stock.. Discovery and 2058 pipe?

what do you guys think of the alpha crf 5 port tebo motor or king motor coming out for a truggy?

OK so a couple of questions.

1. Is the engine ORI80677 the same as the engine in the combo pack ORI80678?
(Honestly from everything I can see, it is the same motor)

2. Half the descriptions on this forum say that it is a standard motor, metal bearings, non-ABI tuned; however, in 90% of the desciptions listed on product info it states :

"The Team Orion Alpha Discovery 3.5cc 5-port off-road engine comes with fitted ceramic bearings and an optimized crankshaft. Designed by world champion Adrien Bertin, the Alpha has all the great features of a competition engine combined with a low budget price."

and includes the "ABI" in the title...

3. Now if the two motors listed above are the same and I buy one, I plan to run this in my MBX6 with the 2058 and MBX6T with 2013. Does it have the grunt to move the truggy with enough authority? While I may not acheive 10 minutes on a tank as I have a heavy finger, would solid 8-9s be reasonable? If so what restrictors for buggy/ truggy?

4. Will I need to buy the mugen specific manifolds from nova to make these combos work?


I have run Nova, Werks, EB Mod JS, and Reedy... the only one I can truly say I have been happy with is the Nova 21+4C and the Reedy when it was <4 gallons... how do these budget minded mills compare?

1. yes same motor

2. no to ceramic bearings and the abi goodies. (but everything is done really well)

3. I see no reason it wont move your truggy around. Mine is making about the same power of my CRF. i havent quite got a good tune on mine yet due to tinkering with fuels, but i am able to get 8min on mine so far. Will only get better.

4. no idea on the header

It is what both Jared and Cody ran at the nitro pit in truggy.. Jared TQed and Won, and Cody Qualified like 4th but had a hub problem..

Yes, we are selling the combos for $239.99. The combos we got in have the 2013 pipe. I have heard the tuning is better with the 2013.
Even with the 2013, fuel economy was great.

Thanks Greg.. I'm gonna be calling WV tomorrow to order a truggy, I might be ordering this combo as well..

Hi Guys,

Wonder if you can help me.

I have got Team Orion CRF ALPHA 5port fantastic engine.

What i was wondering can we change the button head from a turbo to Non turbo? Would it cause any engine issues too?

The reason i ask is here in the UK it's like £10GBP for just one plug but Non Turbo ones like half the price i dont mind loosing abit of performace also found Non Turbo plugs make better tune over turbo plugs i found too.

Any advice would be great if someone could also tell me the part number i need for the button head be great

Bump for a good thread..

I know i said I would be ordering mine a few days ago, but a few things got in the way.. With some luck I'll order it tomorrow, Monday, and get to break-in next weekend..

There is an Orion Alpha that comes with a standard head, but I do not know if that button will work with your engine or not, nor do I know what shimming would be needed.. It will depend on the difference in the two head buttons, the depth at which they both enter the sleeve. It will require some micrometers or a really good (accurate) caliper to check..

I did get the Orion Discovery Alpha ordered yesterday from Greg B at WV Hobbies. Another Smooth and easy transaction.. I wish I could save the amount of money I do with other Hobby purchases as I do with WV Hobbies..

Thanks again Greg, and it was pretty cool to get to talk to you..

Correction.. Cody qualified 2nd ...but you are right on the hub issue. That was my bad I guess as a wheel pin fell out.

These engines are tailor made for a truggy application, as you can put the larger carb insert in if you dare! mucho power!

Sorry Paul I did not mean to short change Cody.. I was going off of memory and it is usually pretty fuzzy if it has been more then a few hours.. LOL

I would hardly say you short changed him, it's all good.. Cody normally doesn't qualify great but then he's there at the end. We're hoping to improve in the qualifying area.

The iFMAR ladder system suites him to a tee, everyone has to race into the main!

I'd like to see more races held this way.. Would be very interesting to see the results..

BTW I got my Orion Alpha Discovery 5 port and 2013 pipe today. Oh I am jonesing to get that thing mounted and broken in.. Should start break-in Saturday..