both seemed to give me about the same mileage. The 2058 was a bit smoother with a tab more top end (minimal really) and the 2013 had a bit more low end for me.


I loved my B321 Factory team engines when I ran them. I would pick up whatever the newest 3 port engine is if I was going to buy a Orion buggy engine.


As far as vs the other brands, everyone is going to have a strong opinion towards whatever they run. I think all the current race engines are very capable. I had great luck with my orion engines, i ran them for two years. I changed over to a OS speed for this year and have been very happy with it as well. I probably wont be running them next year though due to the costs.

The orion had a bit more rip but the OS is smoother.

Looks like a lot of Orions at the top of the DRC buggy rankings so far...

Unfortunately my local rc shop does not have any of the latest orions the only one he has costs 370euro. Should I go for the b321 or the alpha crf 3 port?

Anybody knows the circumference of an orion .21 buggy engine cooling head? As i am designing my own engine heater and beed it to fit all .21 engines

Can someone please tell me what the orion crf 2066 pipe was for. .. i have a chance to get a couple new ones ridiculous cheap. .Please pm me thank you

It was the combo pipe for the original Picco-based CRF....

Don't know that's why I'm asking for info from someone with a lot of orion knowledge

I meant, it WAS the Picco CRF pipe.. Think it was decent.. Remember seeing people running them on other engines. But can't really say more....

Not trying to step in and push anything. I was like you I ran Orion and loved the first one. I bought a Cody King WC engine and it was a joke. Gave Orion another shot with the next model 5 port team engine and it is a good engine. Only problem I have with Orion is SUPPORT, there is NONE. With my Cody King it would not even run a single tank without flaming. I emailed and messaged Orion and the only response I ever got was when I posted the problem to their Face Book page and they told me not to do that! To contact support not post to their page! They never responded, we ended up magna fluxing (aluminum version) the block there were cracks in the block, when it heated up they opened up. I sent photos to Orion guess what NO RESPONSE. I switched to OS and it is a great engine, I have also ran Alpha and Novarossi as well as RB and Werks. My engine now is based on customer support as well as it is one hell of an engine with a good price.

Do you know what current pipe is comparable to? The reason I'm investigating so much is i can get 3 brand new ones at 35 bucks each and i like the orion 2058 and 2057 on my alpha plus engines. .. not a 2013 though so I was seeing what it was close to as far as the current pipes go.

Oh I agree with you completely. There is absolutely zero support for any of their nitro products in the US. Its primarily why I left the orion engines. The engines are good, the support is just not there at all. Trying to find what parts fit what year engines is basically impossible.

I have been extremely happy with my Spec 2 speed. I also have been very happy with my super budget engine the nova P5

I hace very good support on orion engines my local shop loves orion and use them alot.

Is the new engine line available anywhere but Europe yet?

Hi
Anybody knows which engine is this? And if it is CRF Version?

Thankyou

it is a crf, dunno which one though