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There is as many methods as there is racers or bashers...
I just broke in mine last week. I let the engine run on the starter box very rich but at 180F for the whole first tank. I shut off the engine before the tank was completely empty to make sure the engine was not running lean. Let the engine cool down with piston at BDC. Restart the engine and lean the settings slowly (1/8 of a turn) at each tank for the next 6-7 tanks. I've ran the engine slowly, about 1/4 to 1/2 throttle. I also let the engine cool down with piston at BDC after every tank. Once again, I've stopped the engine before the tank was empty. When the engine was performing well and I was happy with the performances, I concluded the break in process was completed. This is after tank 10. However, I will not abuse the engine for many tanks. I progressively run it harder. |
Originally Posted by Rick Hohwart
(Post 7634732)
If your crank has lost the silicone you an sent it back to AE/Reedy for a new crank.
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Andrew here is what AE Driver Brandon Melton does.
Here is some info that might be of help to everyone. Brandon Melton Yeah sure thing, you are right, it's often the small stuff and even the simple things can get a engine to run great. I'll go more in depth how I tune the motor, there are all different ways of how people break it in. This is how I have personally broke in my Reedy engines, and they all tune well and perform for a long period. -always preheat before starting it up for the first time -wrap the head with something like foam, foil, a sock or something to retain heat. -idle just ONE tank through the engine (just to oil and seat the parts). LET COOL after first tank -PRE HEAT engine again-on the second tank I am running the engine on the ground, with the HSN a little rich for lubrication but lean enough to get temps up to around 240. Run the whole tank out using idle to 1/2 throttle bursts. let cool again -Keep doing this for 3 tanks, then for tanks 5-8 I keep it at the same HSN setting but now I am making about 100ft pulls of wide open throttle (temps still staying around 240). -after 8 tanks I put a race tune on it and try to kick some butt -biggest thing is making sure the engine cools after each tank, and then preheating it before the next start up. I usually preheat the engine for the first 1/2 gallon. TUNING I will say that on all 5 engines I have ran, I have never used a carb or back plate sealant, and have never had an air leak or funny tuning. Some people swear by sealing an engine but I have had good success without doing it. I actually prefer to tune from the bottom end first, and can usually get it really close on the box before hitting the track. Here's how I go about a tune when I get to the track. 1.) Start engine and rev gently for about 2 minutes to get some heat into the engine, always tune the engine when up to close operating temp. 2.) I clear the engine out when a couple solid (not death revving) revs then listen to how it comes down to idle, wait about 5 seconds and hit the throttle. 3.) I look for a steady smoke trail and a steady clean pull from the bottom end. You don't want heavy smoke at first tapering into a faint trail. The engine shouldn't hesitate with a rich or lean bog. Should have a crisp sound with steady smoke. 4.) If the engine blows lots of smoke and hesistates to start pulling, lean the bottom end until you get what’s described above. If the engine doesn't blow smoke and stutters to accelerate, richen the LSN until the desired setting. 5.) A KEY indicator of having a close tune on the LSN is listening to the engine come from a rev back to idle. With the proper glow plug and a properly tuned LSN, the engine should almost immeditaly achieve idle speed after a rev on the starter box or on the track. If the idle hangs up, then slowly comes back to idle in "steps" you are too rich on the LSN, probably noticing a lot of smoke as described above. If the engine tends to run on and maintain a high pace without ever coming back down, the LSN is too lean. ALL THIS IS ASSUMING THE IDLE GAP IS SET CORRECTLY (which is around .6-.7mm.) 6.) Once the LSN is where I want it, I will tune the HSN on the track. Assuming climate hasn't changed dramatically since the last time I raced, this is usually only 1 hr. either leaning or richening for optimal tune. If it's the first time with a new engine, it may take a couple adjustments to hit correctly. A proper tune on the HSN should pull hard until the end of the longest straight, but never totally run out of smoke or "run on" at the end of the straight. If you have properly set the LSN and the engine runs on after long straights, the HSN is too lean. If you see a little smoke, and it doesn't run on, you are very close. 7.) After break in, if the engine runs and performs well, and all driving characteristics are as they should be, I don't pay attention to temps anymore. If you have it tuned properly, the temps will fall where they should. You will learn to trust your tune. I could just about tell you within 5 degrees what it would be before a pit guy checked it, LOL. 8.) After setting the HSN on the track, I will then just double check the LSN sound and response after a tank run before shutting it off after it's at full operating temp. Make any minor (if needed) adjustments, and then it's usually good for the rest of the day, unless the mains go into night fall. |
Thanks for the help guy`s....:smile:..., i got it all together and mounted but it was to dam hot...:flaming:.... to be out there today.
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Originally Posted by Andrew_67
(Post 7641431)
Thanks for the help guy`s....:smile:..., i got it all together and mounted but it was to dam hot...:flaming:.... to be out there today.
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Originally Posted by Sylvain
(Post 7641444)
Andrew, you're in Ont. I'm in Qc, I wanted to run my truck but this was too hot here too.... LOL
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Question? Is there anyway to rotate the carb? I was put the clutch system on and I am going to put in my Losi 2.0 today. I was looking at the but it dont look like the carb and be rotated to fit different models. Can it rotate or am I missing something?
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Loosen the two carb bolts. The carb housing is slotted enough to rotate where you need it.
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Originally Posted by Shane Racer
(Post 7643480)
Loosen the two carb bolts. The carb housing is slotted enough to rotate where you need it.
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Any one uses an extra head shim?
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Originally Posted by Sylvain
(Post 7695965)
Any one uses an extra head shim?
After break-in, you should also switch from the included RT3 plug (if you used that) to the RT4/P4. |
i run 30% byrons and a p3 plug and i keep it with the stock shims runs really good, tried taking the stock ones out and repalicing it with the extra one but didn't really like it the motor seemed to run harder but temps jumped and a little more tempramental with the needles so went back to stock and i like it.
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I'm at the track and I'm having motor problems...does anyone know the factory settings for the .21VR.....Please help...lol !!
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start with flush on the bottom and .82mm down from flush on top.
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Originally Posted by Shane Racer
(Post 7701068)
start with flush on the bottom and .82mm down from flush on top.
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