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Chris-s 02-11-2009 09:41 AM


Originally Posted by Jonro (Post 5407028)
At the end of the day if i need to replace all that and with the amount of fuel through it(around 20ltrs)it would probably be cheaper to just salvage the ceramic bearings and carb and buy a GO engine or something.

Scrap the bearings as well, metal shavings will have damaged the bearings as well.

Miller_Time 02-11-2009 01:31 PM


Originally Posted by tom yfz (Post 5417960)
Jonro, Hate to tell you this, but the tune was off on that engine.
The piston has been cooked, and detination from being lean,and more than likely the lean condition has hammered the rod bushing out and changed the compression and timing, which in turn burnt the glow plug out.
I would not salvage anything out of that engine other than the carb and head!
Adam Drakes tune on this engine is:
.045 in from flush Hsn
.045 out from flush Lsn
.030 in from flush, idle screw
6mm restrictor
GRP 5 plug ( I run a GRP 4 plug)
2035 GRP pipe
The engine will run between 150 to 190 degrees(nitrotane,30%)
Good Luck

Are those measurements in inches from flush or something else?

tom yfz 02-11-2009 03:09 PM

Miller Time, yes those measurements are in inches, NOT mm.
The only one that is protruding is the lsn, it sticks out from the throttle ball mount.
The other two are measured, from flush to recessed (below the surface)
It should just need minor tuning from those settings
(air density,temperature,clutch springs etc.)
Good luck
Tom

Matt M. 02-11-2009 04:55 PM


Originally Posted by tom yfz (Post 5419196)
Miller Time, yes those measurements are in inches, NOT mm.
The only one that is protruding is the lsn, it sticks out from the throttle ball mount.
The other two are measured, from flush to recessed (below the surface)
It should just need minor tuning from those settings
(air density,temperature,clutch springs etc.)
Good luck
Tom

it also a 2053 pipe

tom yfz 02-11-2009 05:33 PM

Mr Losi is correct.

ABURTON 02-11-2009 05:38 PM


Originally Posted by jpz_67 (Post 5406139)
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Jonro 02-13-2009 12:47 AM


Originally Posted by tom yfz (Post 5417960)
Jonro, Hate to tell you this, but the tune was off on that engine.
The piston has been cooked, and detination from being lean,and more than likely the lean condition has hammered the rod bushing out and changed the compression and timing, which in turn burnt the glow plug out.
I would not salvage anything out of that engine other than the carb and head!
Adam Drakes tune on this engine is:
.045 in from flush Hsn
.045 out from flush Lsn
.030 in from flush, idle screw
6mm restrictor
GRP 5 plug ( I run a GRP 4 plug)
2035 GRP pipe
The engine will run between 150 to 190 degrees(nitrotane,30%)
Good Luck

The piston looks allot darker and worse in that photo than IRL, plus the plug had no coil in it right after the engine died. The engine was running rich with a temp of around 190.

I put over 20 ltrs of fuel through this engine without a hiccup, unless someone sneaked into my house during the night and totally messed with me needles thats the only way it could have run lean, which it wasn't.

Alan D. 02-13-2009 12:52 AM

190 is at the upper end of heat for those GRP motors.
Heck tonight Truhe's motor was running at 170 and it was flying.

losi_racer 02-13-2009 01:08 AM


Originally Posted by Alan D. (Post 5425894)
190 is not hot for those GRP motors.
Heck tonight Truhe's motor was running at 170 and it was flying.

mine runs at 160 at it runs great

Franchize04 02-15-2009 05:13 PM

I got a half gallon through my GRP tuned and its really coming alive. We had a test and tune day at the track and I was getting 11 minutes @ 160 degrees. I know it will get 12 minutes once it gets broken in good and race tuned.

Miller_Time 02-16-2009 05:21 AM

Has anyone heard about the new pricing plans or distribution? I plan to get one but definitely want to wait for their price drop.

Frank L 02-16-2009 07:20 AM


Originally Posted by Alan D. (Post 5425894)
190 is at the upper end of heat for those GRP motors.
Heck tonight Truhe's motor was running at 170 and it was flying.

I have had 3 of these engines and they all seem to run around the 200 mark 190 to 220 with pleanty of smoke out of the pipe. Tuning to temp can be dangerous. Tune to smoke and performance and use temp as a check just to make sure you are in the right direction.

Miller_Time 02-16-2009 07:51 AM

What about breaking one in, should you still try to get to around 230F? I guess you would need to do some pre-heating and wrap up the head if so?

Quietman 02-16-2009 02:49 PM

How can you tell if your piston is black what does it mean is is too rich,but the engine has run 5 gallons + with compression

Adam Drake 02-16-2009 04:47 PM

http://www.losi.com/Articles/Article...ArticleID=1897


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