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Old 06-08-2010 | 06:28 AM
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I never use the "number of turns on needles" approach, but a good friend is asking me about 5 port engine "base config" to start tuning, in number of turns of low end and high end needle ... can you give me that info guys ?

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Old 06-08-2010 | 10:17 AM
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Both screws flush is a safe place to start.
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Old 06-08-2010 | 10:26 AM
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What is the flush position?
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Old 06-08-2010 | 10:29 AM
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when the head of the screw is even (flush) with the housing.
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Old 06-08-2010 | 10:40 AM
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is it?
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Old 06-08-2010 | 11:08 AM
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correct^^^
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Old 06-09-2010 | 01:58 AM
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Well Grizz I took the advice you posted above for the RB mod 3 port I was breaking in and my MG-66. I had the engines out of the car and reset the idle gaps and needles to flush. I was surprised to see how much in fact leaning the lsn effected the idle gap. Needless to say they both run like rapped apes. I didn't know the mg could have more power,but my god that thing is wicked! As you know I really love my 3 port. Modded it is very fast. Since my tune was way off on the mg I thought the 3 port was almost as fast as the mg. No!!!!!! And I tried the 2 pipes on them. The go 2072[mg-66 loves it] and the dynamite 086[3 port likes it] When I had the 086 on the mg it felt snappier down low on a run up too double-triples,but ran out of leg. And that's a top end pipe. The 086 on my 3 port makes it a small wild animal all around. The 2072 pipe on the 3 port tamed it all around,but still had good top end but mileage suffered. The mg-66 with the 2072 pipe is giving me 12:20's per tank,and the 3 port 13:30's+best 14:02. I am going to install the smallest restrictor I have for the mg,along with some softer clutch springs . Only to get some traction. My friend watching the car with the mg in it said it would go a hell of a lot faster if we could get the power to the ground. WE have 2 long straights on the track and the tires would just spin the whole way until I let off the throttle. When I was triggering the throttle at half -to full it was hooking up and like a rocket. But we both know how hard it is to do that all the time The only other problem is the car wants to wheely. It's going at a good pace,hit a little bump and up comes the front. I can see the front wanting to pop up when ever I get on the gas. Any suggestions?
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Ahhh - Matt's liking that MG66, I can tell
I fully understand why

MG66 update;

My MG66 has now passed the 60ltr mark and still going strong, 12+min run times still and going so well in fact, came 2nd in Autumn challenge,
Came 17th @ NSW state titles with not one flame out, then 1st @ Queens Birthday Cup.

Here's a short clip of the warmup before the start of my semi @ NSW states.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oqt1LyVFrfU

and Round 6 Quallifying.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIqaAgfEY1k
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Old 06-09-2010 | 03:54 AM
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on yah flanno, 60 lt (over 15 gallons) & the toros couldn't touch u on the straights
some nice passing moves too, well done
have u changed the rod yet ?
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Old 06-09-2010 | 04:52 AM
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on yah flanno, 60 lt (over 15 gallons) & the toros couldn't touch u on the straights
some nice passing moves too, well done
have u changed the rod yet ?
Yep, at the 40ltr mark when the main bearing finally started to show signs of fatigue......yes thats correct 40 ltrs from new before bearing and rod change.
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Old 06-09-2010 | 04:56 AM
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Old 06-09-2010 | 07:33 AM
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I changed the rod and installed a ceramic bearing at 2 gallons on my mg-66. Only because we are supposed to do it after break in. But the rod was still tight and the rear bearing,well I did it because I had one laying around and engine took apart. I do have a 7 port with 12 gallons on it. Changed rod twice? bearings once.
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Old 06-09-2010 | 08:52 AM
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Sounds like an early clutch. Try the 1.1 springs as recommended.
Other thing it could be is your brakes are binding - ie they are on at idle, and are not releasing fully until the throttle is opened up some. Check that when your throttle slide is fully closed your brakes are completely free and the car will roll. Reset your brake rods etc if required.



3 Port with an 086 should be a weapon. Couple of things-
If you have the long needle carb, you are most likely too lean on the HSN. This will kill the power and make it run hot, plus lean bog at low tank levels. Combined with this you may well be way too rich on the bottom end with a too wide an idle gap as well. This also applies to the short needle carb in most cases.
Reset your idle gap to .7mm max. Long needle set HSN to flush, LSN to 1.5 turns in from flush and tune from there. Short needle carb set the HSN to 1 turn in from flush and the LSN 1.5 turns in from flush and tune from there, being careful not to go too lean on the top end in both cases.
IMPORTANT - If the motor won't idle at .7mm idle gap, lean the bottom end needle until it will idle - DO NOT ADJUST THE IDLE GAP. This is where the problem starts and you end up with a big idle gap and rich bottom end, which means you need to run the top end really lean to compensate.

Secondly, you may have an air leak somewhere. Motor or fuel system.

Run stock shimming for 30%. This is 1 x .3mm alloy shim and 2 x .1mm brass shims. Total shim stack of .5mm. Run a medium temp plug. You should be seeing 9 min easy with that pipe. Lack of run time is coming from the rich bottom end / wide idle gap I would say.
what is the measurement on the needle or what do i look for on the needle for long or short? the motor only came with 1 shim?? and i think that its like u said cause the idle gap is over 1mm. thank you grizzs!!!!
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Old 06-09-2010 | 08:55 AM
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guys i need parts for a 5port go, piston rod sleeve and a crank shaft, hell i need a good parts dealer for the usa???
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Old 06-09-2010 | 10:18 AM
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I have a full inventory of Engines, Combo kits, and parts. (GX21 engines)
Many of these interchange with older generation engines.
I also stock the 25 and 28 engines and have SOME parts for those.
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Old 06-09-2010 | 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by LOSIRACER77
what is the measurement on the needle or what do i look for on the needle for long or short? the motor only came with 1 shim?? and i think that its like u said cause the idle gap is over 1mm. thank you grizzs!!!!
The easiest way to tell which needle you have is to open the throttle fully and look down the carb throat. If the needle you see still has it's tip in the reciever jet opening (little brass jet on the right hand side) then you have the long needle. If the needle pulls out of the reciever jet at around 3/4 throttle and is well clear at full throttle, then you have the short needle.
If you are still unsure remove the needle and measure it with a vernier. Long needle is 1.6" long and tapers down to a fine point. The short needle is 1.42" long and has a stubby bull nose tip.
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