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Manticore 01-29-2004 09:49 AM

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the adaptor

fuse01 01-29-2004 06:01 PM

sir

the adaptor is for rear only ? or can be use in the front as well?



what is the kawahara part number?

thanks

Manticore 01-29-2004 06:05 PM


Originally posted by fuse01
sir

the adaptor is for rear only ? or can be use in the front as well?



what is the kawahara part number?

thanks

this adaptor can be fitted to both front and rear diff. I dont have that part number :D

I do have both front/rear solid axle using this adaptor with me but i have never used them. :lol: :lol:

fuse01 01-29-2004 06:30 PM

you have PM

Manticore 01-29-2004 06:42 PM


Originally posted by fuse01
you have PM
you have pm 2 ! :D :D :D

mckrooz 01-29-2004 08:52 PM


Originally posted by Manticore
the 16/19T pulley conversion is referring to the side pulley with the long belt. stock pulley there is front:24T and rear 19T

what you need to do the conversion is get an extra 16T pulley, put the rear 19T to the front and affix the extra 16T to the rear. and at last you need a shorter side belt. kawahara carries the shorter long belt for this conversion and there is someone on this forum selling the shorter long belt.

i tried the alloy pulley and i dont like them as they wear too fast. stick with the plastic pulleys.

with the 16/19 conversion, you may use smaller tire in the front which is the purpose of the 16/19 pulley conversion.

why you need to shaved your steering linkage and deburred the diff case?

So with this conversion, do you HAVE to true the front tires down to get the full benefit?

Manticore 01-29-2004 08:54 PM


Originally posted by mckrooz
So with this conversion, do you HAVE to true the front tires down to get the full benefit?
yes, 4mm smaller in the front

sbmon 01-29-2004 09:11 PM

and dont forget that when running a smaller tire on the front you will have to adjust your droop accordingly

theRED5 01-29-2004 10:49 PM

As I understand this, because of the way the MTx3 wears the rears so much more than the fronts, the handling will go away, at least it did on my car. So "they" came up with this fix, so to speak. When running the 16/19 change, you run the fronts 4mm smaller than the rears, and at the end of a 30-45 min main the car still handles as well as it does at the start of the race. Because the tires are almost even after 30 min, at my track.

sbmon 01-30-2004 08:06 AM

That is my understanding too red5:)
but I have not yet tried this belt and pulley configuration
my question though to those that have experience with this
gearing/belt configurationi s this If you begin the 30 minute main
with front tires 4 mm smaller, then you say the tires wear evenly that means that when you finish the main the front tires will still be 4mm smaller than the rear tires right(because this would have to be the case for consistent handling. Is my thinking correct here?:)

stefan 01-30-2004 08:41 AM

I usually start with a 3.5 mm split and after 30 minutes still have a 3 mm split.

The car handles much more consistent during the entire main.

We have a guy at the track who runs the belt conversion w/o any split, he says he likes the overdrive.

He's fast, but I think this is putting tons of strain on the drive train.

2Fast4U2 01-30-2004 11:26 AM

I have never heard of this problem. I have run My mtx3 in numerous 30 min mains. I have never noticed a significant difference in the way the car handle in the first 5 min to the last 5 min. I look at my lap times. they don't vary much. if i was running a 11:9's at first 5 min. I still can run 11:9's in last 5 min.

who makes this conversion piece?

B 01-30-2004 11:28 AM

no one makes them

you make it yourself

all you buy is the different belt to work with the pullies, thats all

2Fast4U2 01-30-2004 11:39 AM

That is all I needed to know. Mine drives fine.
Thanks

theRED5 01-30-2004 03:13 PM

I run softer rear tires with harder springs and found that the rears would be smaller than the fronts at the end. That's why I changed to it.

You may be compensating for the difference thru the race without noticing the handling difference. If not leave it off, you don't need the change.;)

I like running the conversion.:D


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